Re: Loud pipes, legal for Harleys, not cars. Why?
This topic is funny and will never be sorted out. First of all there is no street riden Harley that is as loud as a V8 with open headers. No way, no how. Straight pipes on Harley are illegal, lets clear up what a straight pipe is, it is a pipe with no baffles or muffler at all. Just an open pipe. While some (very few in my area) run straight pipes (it used to be cool "back in the day"). My pipe on my Harley was "loud" by some standards, but it was not a straight pipe. I as a "biker" did not sit at stop lights and rev the engine, the same goes for most (not all) of my biker buddies. Now if we went through a tunnel in a pack all bets were off.
To be perfectly open and honest I think there are people that just don't like Harleys/bikers and like to whine because they make too much noise. It's not the noise that bothers you it's the whole situation. Harleys are not that loud at idle, no matter what kind of pipes.
What's also interesting to me is, the only people that complain are those that have never riden before. The whole loud pipes save lives, really does have "some" merrit to it. That doesn't mean the louder your pipes the safer you are, it just means you are more likely to be "noticed" and not have to hear "I didn't see him officer" while you are laying on the ground.
This topic will never be agreed on, if you have never riden you have no idea in the world what you are talking about. Either some of you have REALLY sensitive ears or you just don't like Harleys. I have been in huge packs of bikes and the sound is not that loud, the wind noise is louder than the bikes. Now will all that said I haven't been with you when you heard these extremely loud bikes so maybe they were running some sort of pipe I have never heard or seen (doubtful).
I agree 100% with Bob on this.
I bet there are older ladies in your neighborhhod that think your Camraos are too loud too. What do you have to say about that? Should you be forced to not have a healthy cam and exhaust? Harleys are so much the same as a hot rod, you guys don't even see it. The same things are done to them as we all do to our hot rods, ignition, cam, headers, intakes, carb, heads. It's all to make a little more power and personalize your ride. Live and let live, it's amazing to hear car guys whining about Harleys. There are jerks in cars that like to burn rubber, do donuts, drive wreckless, etc.... Does that mean all of you are like that? NO. There are some bikers that are knuckleheads and like to make noise just because they can, but we have all been at car shows where there are one or two knuckleheads reving up their engines, Right?