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Morel 4603 lifters BBC

Anyone using Morel lifters 4603 on a BBC? What pushrods are you using ???

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post #2 of 15 (permalink) Old Feb 25th, 13, 10:30 AM
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Re: Morel 4603 lifters BBC

MOrel lifters are built to GM factor height. If you have aftermarket heads you need to measure the pushrods. I recommend a 3/8" with a swedged end.

OEM heads would be around 7.800 and 8.650" in length.
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Re: Morel 4603 lifters BBC

Thx, I have aluminum heads.

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Thx, I have aluminum heads.
Best bet would be to get some adjustable check pushrods and some lighter check springs for the heads and use the mid-lift method to select the correct length pushrods. You can have custom length pushrods made up in any length you need from Trend and others. Google "midlift method for valvetrain geometry" for more information on this. If no luck, PM me and I can email a couple of PDF documents that explain it pretty thoroughly.

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Hey thanks Tom. I will check it out.

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Re: Morel 4603 lifters BBC

Chris whats your opinion on using check springs?
I always use the real springs, but just wondering...

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Chris whats your opinion on using check springs?
I always use the real springs, but just wondering...
I like using the real world set up also.

Sorry I missed this post of yours.
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I like using the real world set up also.

Sorry I missed this post of yours.
Chris, I assume you use a solid lifter of some type to keep the plunger from being compressed? What is a good substitute for the Morel hydraulics?

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Re: Morel 4603 lifters BBC

Talk about thread Hijacking!!!

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Talk about thread Hijacking!!!
Sorry, wasn't my intention to hijack - I thought it was related to the original post since you need to determine your correct pushrod length. Some people use check springs in the heads when doing this because the regular springs will compress the plungers and throw the reading off. I'll step off since you apparently don't need / want my help.

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Chris, I assume you use a solid lifter of some type to keep the plunger from being compressed? What is a good substitute for the Morel hydraulics?
YOu can use a solid roller and then measure the distance using a .312" check ball. Morel has there measurements posted on the site. Subtract the difference and you have your pushrod length.

Morel's have .141 to .143" worth of plunger travel.
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Re: Morel 4603 lifters BBC

now for a real hijack
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you were doing some spintronon girly roller lifters testing
can you post some info on your R&D?
valve weight, spring pressure, rpm ...
or is it top secret stuff that I'll only get when you do my next cam (with a big heavy intake valve)?

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now for a real hijack
Chris
you were doing some spintronon girly roller lifters testing
can you post some info on your R&D?
valve weight, spring pressure, rpm ...
or is it top secret stuff that I'll only get when you do my next cam (with a big heavy intake valve)?
Time to grow up I think.

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Re: Morel 4603 lifters BBC

Some of the best threads are the ones that get hijacked. Good stuff...

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well it is a hijack from the original post... hope the op doesnt mind
but a serious question about the spintron testing, a good technical subject, dont you think?
and I'm just givin Chris a hard time about my next engine project, which he will be doing the valvetrain on... need to throw more of these guys in next time so you guys dont take me so serious.

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