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post #16 of 26 (permalink) Old Jun 12th, 15, 01:54 PM
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Re: Steering gear upgrade interesting note

I am Sure this is a very OLD question but here goes. My Stock Box is leaking from EVERYWHERE. I need to re-build or re-place it. I priced re-building it and the shop said $350. I am thinking - Heck for that price I can probably Buy a new replacement. Now starts the confusion. I am finding all kinda stuff with all Kinda claims. I have a 68 (firebird) and I am wanting to improve the steering if I am going to Buy a new BOX. I want a direct swap out with no problems. I already have Power steering in the car. SOOO what box should I consider? I am finding all kinda different turns ratios and so forth? I know CPP is good stuff but I am confused and Un-informed.

Can you guys offer me a suggestion?

Here are 2 list of several different ones currently available.

http://www.firebirdcentral.com/FIREB...how=240&page=1

http://www.summitracing.com/search/y...steering%20box

This box seems appealing but I am uncertain?
http://www.firebirdcentral.com/1964_..._p/pow-400.htm
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post #17 of 26 (permalink) Old Jul 12th, 15, 05:29 PM
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converting manual steering to power steering on 67 need some help pls

Hi Guys
Here is my problem, I have a 67 rs Camaro it had manual steering so I switched to power steering BUT now the car barley turns left and right turn is sharp. Do you also need to change I think its called the drag link bar which attaches to the pitman arm ?. I say this because of my turning problems and I checked it out , If that bar was 3 inch longer when both tires were pointed forward that bar would come out right under my pitman arm . Any help please thanx in advance
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post #18 of 26 (permalink) Old Jul 17th, 15, 08:11 AM
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I have been researching this issue. I have a 69 that I want better steering for and the best info I came up with so far is this site .. Get a pen.. Chevelles.com/techref/ftecref29.html these are from Jim Shea who was the engineer for Saginaw that designed the steering for GM. I'll keep a post to let you know what I pick up. So far I think I'm gonna try the flex coupling and pump from a 70-82 chev/gmc p/u and a box from a 92-98 grand Cherokee , you have to replace or rebuild the pump so it will give to faster ratio box enough fluid.. I will post something to his I made out. Good kuck
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post #19 of 26 (permalink) Old Jul 17th, 15, 09:35 AM Thread Starter
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Re: Steering gear upgrade interesting note

Well, if you want to reinvent the wheel go ahead. Why would you want to combine all those parts from different sources? Your camaro's pump can be modified easily. What is it about the 86-92 iron/z boxes you don't like?

69 SS clone, fathom green, TMI sport seats, 200r4, 3.42 posi rear end, IROC steering box, SPC control arms, koni shocks.. Future mods include bolting on the Profiler heads, FIRST TPI, and roller cam sitting in the garage
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post #20 of 26 (permalink) Old Jul 17th, 15, 12:44 PM
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Re: Steering gear upgrade interesting note

This steering gear is $125 at rockauto without an exchange.

Seems a no-brainer.

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post #21 of 26 (permalink) Old Jul 20th, 15, 05:47 AM
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All I did was say what I was going to try on my specific ride. I don't really have a specific choice, I'm not trying g to re-invent anything either. The article I gave gives a lot of different choices. Your right though, the pump can be easily upgraded .. I haven't purchased anything yet. This coming weekend I'm going to pick and pull my parts, I've located them but when I go I may change my mind on a few types. Ill mention something on how it worked for me....
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post #22 of 26 (permalink) Old Jul 20th, 15, 05:57 AM
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Also I don't have anything against the Iroc-Z . I had a 84 Z28 and a 90 Iroc-Z ... Loved them .... Also a 87 trans am a supercharged cougar XR 7 , alot of other cars and trucks along with many sport bikes and Harleys. It's been a great ride... I'm not claiming to know anything special either. Always wanting to learn more and give some if I can .
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post #23 of 26 (permalink) Old Jul 20th, 15, 06:05 AM Thread Starter
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Settle down, my friend. You can do whatever you want, its your car. Just pointing out that there is a proven to work method for upgrading your steering. There are many stories of these swaps gone bad and usually its because somebody didn't get the correct box. There's a current thread where somebody used a CPP box and it "clunks" when turned.

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I was hoping to find some stories of these swaps and I'm not o e to believes everything I read, I always have to investigate it and do my own analysis. Thanks .
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Im going to try to use the box, pump and lines. I'm thinking I need to be sure the rag joint connects properly, the diameter of the pump is the same as original and I use the same pitman arm.... Think?
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Re: Steering gear upgrade interesting note

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Im going to try to use the box, pump and lines. I'm thinking I need to be sure the rag joint connects properly, the diameter of the pump is the same as original and I use the same pitman arm.... Think?
Frank... Did you ever get the JGC box installed? Very curious as I'm on the same path. Picked up a '96 JGC box with just under 110,000 on it. Very smooth, no leaks, so all I need now is the right rag joint and adapters for the hoses. I think I'd like to use new hoses so maybe that simplifies things a little.

I'm also in Mass, just outside of Springfield... maybe we'll meet up at a local cruise night or show. Marks Classic Cruise in East Granby is having a Camaro/Firebird theme night in September, Mark your calendar!

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