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post #1 of 14 (permalink) Old Apr 15th, 09, 12:02 PM Thread Starter
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Woodruff key install?

Do Eagle cranks use different size woodruff keys? I have mangled a set of 3/16x3/4 keys trying to get them installed in the crank. I have rounded all the edges on the keys, tried grinding some material off the bottom of the keys, and tried grinding a little from the groove in the crank. I still need like an 1/8 of an inch. Is there a trick or am I using the wrong size key?

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post #2 of 14 (permalink) Old Apr 15th, 09, 12:39 PM
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Re: Woodruff key install?

All woodruff keys I've ever used had to be ground to fit. They are made over size to fit all applications.

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O.k., thanks. I'll keep grinding in them.

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Re: Woodruff key install?

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I have used a bunch of Eagle cranks and have never had a problem getting a stock Chevy woodruff key to fit. I have never had to grind one. I usually just barely touch the sharp edge on the groove with a very small file to break the edge, then the key goes right in. I would have to question the keyways you are using ? I get them from Pioneer and like I said, I have absolutely never had to grind or sand one at all.

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Hrd,
Pioneer part number PK9A

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Mine went right in with no issues.

Measure your key and keyway... may have been a bad cut ?

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post #7 of 14 (permalink) Old Apr 16th, 09, 05:19 AM Thread Starter
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Re: Woodruff key install?

I'll check everything out. I bought another set from a different place. Hopefully they'll work...I measured the key and the groove from the first set and they should have fit, but it sounds like the key is bottomed out. Even rounding the edges its shaving the sides if the key when I punch it in.

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I may have to check them out. I bought another set, hopefully they will work.

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A little, tap, tap w/ a small Ford Tool will do you fine! I like to slant down just a schosh/red-headed "C"-hair in the front to help guide.....

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hrd,
I have used a bunch of Eagle cranks and have never had a problem getting a stock Chevy woodruff key to fit. I have never had to grind one. I usually just barely touch the sharp edge on the groove with a very small file to break the edge, then the key goes right in. I would have to question the keyways you are using ? I get them from Pioneer and like I said, I have absolutely never had to grind or sand one at all.
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Evidently the keys I purchased from the local autoparts guy were a little over sized. I bought another set from NAPA and they fit fine. 4 stitches in my big toe later, I pretty much got my short block together over the weekend.

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Ouch. Big toes evolved to cushion dropped crankshafts.

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TH400 (CX) with Coan 8" converter, GV-OD, 8 track still on console and best et 10.495, 128.79mph 1.428 60'
All with 1960's stuff. (except tires and converter)
+ MT Super Scavenger headers & 3" full exhaust with X pipe. 3700 lbs. with me in it.
1000cfm AED and HD Harold-Lunati SR, 725 lift with shaft rockers too.
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Nooooooo ! not the big toe


from "Stripes" lol

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post #14 of 14 (permalink) Old Apr 21st, 09, 05:36 AM Thread Starter
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Re: Woodruff key install?

Not sure if I hit the grinder with the crankshaft as I lifted it up off my work bench or if I hit the extension cord with my leg. Anyways, grinder falls, I try to pin it against my work table with my leg so it doesn't fall full force as I'm holding the crankshaft, some how the safety button gets pressed in which allows the grinder to turn on, grinder falls to floor goes through my shoe and a little of my big toe.....Remember to always wear your helmet, saftey glasses, gloves, steel toe boots, mouth piece, and shin guards when working with power tools and around heavy objects.

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