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post #1 of 11 (permalink) Old Apr 5th, 06, 12:38 PM Thread Starter
 
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307 to 350 frame mount, height difference

Searched but couldn’t find anything on this topic. Does anyone happen to know the height difference of a 307 frame mount as opposed to a 350 frame mount? This is of course, going on a 1969 Camaro
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post #2 of 11 (permalink) Old Apr 5th, 06, 12:49 PM
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Re: 307 to 350 frame mount, height difference

I thought the only difference in frame mounts was big block vs. small block. I think all small blocks mounted the same. If I'm wrong someone please tell me.

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post #3 of 11 (permalink) Old Apr 5th, 06, 01:06 PM
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Re: 307 to 350 frame mount, height difference

There is a difference between 307 mounts and 350's, but for the life of me I can't remember. I think it has to do with engine mounts and not frame mounts and with the right side, but that is just a guess. I think there are posts on this topic before so do a search.
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Re: 307 to 350 frame mount, height difference

The 327 or 307 frame and engine mounts move the engine slightly forward compared to the 302 or 350 mounts. I'm not sure of the exact diminsion that it is. The 307/327 mounts allow enough clearance from the firewall to use an HEI distributor where as the 302/350 mounts cause the engine to sit back too far to use and HEI without "clearancing" the firewall. I don't think there is a height difference in the 2 types of mounts.

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post #5 of 11 (permalink) Old Apr 5th, 06, 01:15 PM
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The 307 327 and '67 350 had one set then they were redesigned for the later 350's to compensate for increased torque which was breaking lots of motor mounts back then (GM had a recall on this issue in '68-'70). They changed again as a result of a class action lawsuit to the clamshell design now. I will also conceade the HEI issue.

There was about 3/16" difference in fit. Nothing a big pry bar and a little strong arming couldn't overcome in Joe's Garage 'R' Us (unless you saw the service bulletin, you just though parts guy was selling crummy parts. I know that's what I thought at first).


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Re: 307 to 350 frame mount, height difference

There's a bit of info on David Pozzi's http://www.pozziracing.com site on this, and I'm not totally clear on it myself as far as exact dimensions, but...

Both the motor mounts and the frame mounts are different.
The most "notable" difference is how wide they are where they fit together, one set is wider than the other. If you mix and match one way, they fit loosely, the other way they won't fit at all.

The 307 / 327 engine had ~6 1/2" balancers, the 302 / 350's had 8"

An 8" balancer engine on 307/327 mounts will possibly have the balancer hit the swaybar (think most aftermarket bars have additional drop in the center so this doesn't happen)

It's been said here many times that 307/327 mounts give additional firewall clearance, I'm not sure on this. Only time I put an hei in a camaro was a 327 mount car, and it didn't fit without some ford tool work.

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Re: 307 to 350 frame mount, height difference

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ford tool work.
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post #8 of 11 (permalink) Old Apr 5th, 06, 01:44 PM
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Cool Re: 307 to 350 frame mount, height difference

Actually I use a Chrysler tool in mine. Torsion bar out of a '67 Chrysler Imperial, cut off one end heated it up enough to beat it into a spoon shape, quenched it and tempered it; makes a great pry bar.


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Re: 307 to 350 frame mount, height difference

One of many uses for a 5000lb dinosaur! Although I am sure most ended up being demo derby fodder. Hard to find that much metal today....
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Re: 307 to 350 frame mount, height difference

My buddy just bought a 62 Imperial to restore for $300.00

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