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post #1 of 15 (permalink) Old Oct 10th, 07, 01:38 PM Thread Starter
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How to remove kick panels?

Looked through the assem manual, but couldn't find it. I'm installing stereo speakers there, and I was trying to remove them, but the edge of it going up to the dash kept hanging things up. Seems I might need to remove a dash component to loosen things up to wiggle out?
What am I missing?
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post #2 of 15 (permalink) Old Oct 10th, 07, 02:47 PM
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Re: How to remove kick panels?

I just took mine out recently. There is a small screw on the side of the dash that you have to remove. There are also about 6 screws around the oval vent that have to come out. Other than than it should just pop out. When I say it should just pop out, I mean in will take you quite a while of reafing, swearing, and scratches to get them out, but they should just pop out!
I had to use 2 flathead screwdrivers with a 45 degree angle at the tip. I got one in place and then the other and just worked my way around. I probably wouldn't be the first to say that swapping the kick panels was my least favorite part of redoing my interior!

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post #3 of 15 (permalink) Old Oct 10th, 07, 03:39 PM
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Re: How to remove kick panels?

If you think these will just "pop out" your nuts. Like akxtreme said, and I can confirm through my own kick-pannel removal...it takes a lot of swearing, pushing, pulling, wiggling, prying, and plenty of cuts and scrapes to get them out.

For the drivers side I removed my E-brake. If yours pop-out, more power to you. Mine sure didn't.
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Re: How to remove kick panels?

If you're doing it to fit the speakers in behind, skip it. There's not enough room, so you'll end up mounting them from the front side anyway.

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Re: How to remove kick panels?

Already have a few scratches on my hands & stuff. A few swear words were heard as well.
Eric Kammerer: I figured they'll have to be mounted that way, just wanna measure 2 or 3 times, then cut once. (even then I can mess up...)
Sounds like I missed a screw, as akxtreme posted, I'll look when I get home tonight.
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speakers?
You don't need to take them all the way off for speakers, check this:
JimM's Speakers

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post #7 of 15 (permalink) Old Oct 10th, 07, 07:46 PM
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Re: How to remove kick panels?

That's what he needed Jim! I was in too much of a hurry to get back to seat belts to elaborate and search for those photos or a template.

John - if you search "remove kick panel" you'll see that this gets asked a lot. What makes them hard to remove, even when the screws are out and the parking brake is out of the way, are two things.

1. The mother of all non-hardening, sticky icky, body caulk used to seal around the tube that extends into the cowl side. If you do take them off, save/replace this sealer or you'll get wet feet. Electrician's duct seal putty works well as a replacement.

2. The tube itself, which has several plastic lips/flanges (ribbed for your ...) to direct water around it. They just barely flex enough to allow you to gyrate it out of the opening.

If you do end up pulling them out, you'll probably want to put new door seals on. The seal kits sold by places like Rick's don't work because they are for a Vette; at least on my 69, they were too short in the long dimension. I used thin closed cell foam I bought from an upholstery shop.

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post #8 of 15 (permalink) Old Oct 11th, 07, 04:20 AM
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Re: How to remove kick panels?

I trimmed the flange about 1/8" all around to make it much easier to reinstall. Removing those panels is a blood-letting experience.

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Re: How to remove kick panels?

Thanks Jim! Ya, I like that setup.
Got one panel off this morning before I had to get into the monkey suit & tie & go to work.
Surprised to find a few things behind it.
Found the non hardening- but mostly hardened -caulk stuff slopped all around. I have to have this stuff? What a mess!
Found a lot of super fine really white sand where the speaker will go. . Looks like its been there for awhile. Then found the little leaves, pine needles, & other stuff where the vent is that seems more correct from it being from Utah. Interesting. Always have the thought "If this car could talk" or the thread from awhile ago of what was found in your Camaro...

Do I really need the sealer/caulk stuff, me being in a desert/dry area, or will it dump a lot of water inside just by washing the car?

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Re: How to remove kick panels?

Never mind on the sealer question.
I read the thread a little further down....yes, I need it.

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post #11 of 15 (permalink) Old Oct 12th, 07, 01:33 PM
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Re: How to remove kick panels?

I found that on my 69 if I take the rocker trim panel out and the small screw in the door channel out I can pull the bottom of the kick panel out just a little and tilt in inboards I can then disconnect the vent cable and the kick will slide out fairly easily, getting it back in the correct place is another story.
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Re: How to remove kick panels?

Got the pass. side done.

That was not fun.

Wish me luck on the drivers side. Ugh.

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Re: How to remove kick panels?

The driver side is a bear. Got to remove the emergency brake bracket. Did mine last week before the car goes for paint.
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Re: How to remove kick panels?

A deep socket or a craftsman ratcheting wrench will come in handy on the nuts for the e-brake bracket. Not a ton of room to maneuver a wrench down in corner. It is nice to have an extra set of hands to hold the bracket out of the way while you attempt to remove the kick panel. My driver's side actually came out fairly easy (easy is a relative term!). Getting it back it without scratching it to death was the hard part.

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Re: How to remove kick panels?

You werent kidding on the dr side being worse. E-brake bracket came off fine, ya, was a little wierd getting to it with the hood hinge in your face, but no big deal. It got to the point where I just yanked super hard where it was wanting to come out. More blood spilled. Found a da sanding disc pad in the vent area with a lot more leaves & stuff. Vacuumed that side out too. Panel went in with a little persuasion from a crowbar to push the double flange of the vent in a bit while I used my foot between the panel & e- brake to stuff it back in. Was pushing super hard then BANG, popped right in perfectly.
Not a job I'd like to repeat, but I do like the outcome! Tunes! Looks pretty good too! Just havta vacuum up all the little leaves & dirt/dust that spilled out on the carpet. No biggie.
Rear speaker in the future. I hope those will be easier.
Thanks everybody!
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