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post #1 of 24 (permalink) Old Nov 5th, 08, 06:16 PM Thread Starter
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removing kick panel

I'm sure this isnt to hard but my driver side vent shut off is broke. i went to take the kick panel off but couldnt get it loose. Didnt see any obvious screws or retainer clips so i didnt want yank on it to hard until i knew what i was doing. Im sure most of you guys know how to get this off, thanks.
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post #2 of 24 (permalink) Old Nov 5th, 08, 07:22 PM
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Re: removing kick panel

Jim,
What year car are you referring to? 67-69 are attached with 5 screws each located around the perimeter of the oval vent duct. The driver's side is a pain because You'll have to remove the emergency brake pedal assembly to get it out. There should also be a bead of puddy that seals the kick panel to the opening to prevent any water from entering the car. Once you have the screws and e-brake assembly removed, it will take some effort to break the seal loose. You'll also need to remove the sill plate and pillar post molding to get the panel out.

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post #3 of 24 (permalink) Old Nov 6th, 08, 02:12 PM Thread Starter
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Re: removing kick panel

its a 69 camaro, guess that would help, seems all the visible screws are missing so i will remove the parking brake assembly and go from there, thanks
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Re: removing kick panel

Like "Lucky" says... it may take some effort... in fact, it may take much effort to break the panel loose, if it's still in its orig seal. Just make sure that you have lots of dum dum (sealant) at hand to replace the seal.

As I think back when I tangled with mine...maybe some heat via a hair dryer might have helped???

Try not to break the panel...but you may come close to doing this.

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Jim,
Are you trying to save the kick panel??
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Re: removing kick panel

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Jim,
Are you trying to save the kick panel??
Hi Jim!

I saw this last night, but didn't have the energy to do it justice!

Where the vent is, there is a large oval tube sticking several inches into the cowl.
It has a 3/4" flange all around the inner end.
Where it penetrates the cowl, it is sealed with some sort of thick sticky putty.

First, use a tool to pull the edge off the door pinchweld. I use a 1" putty knife, I heated it up with a torch and bent it 180 degrees, so I had a wide flat hook I can slide under the plastic and pop it off the pinchweld. Put some tape around it so it doesn't marr the paint.

Once that's off, you get to pull and tiwst and pull until the seal lets loose.

At this point, the kick panel will be flopping around and you'll think you're home free. Go have a beer, you are not home free. That flange is all that's holding it on, and that flange is considerably larger than the hole it must go thru, all the way around. Just work it, twist it, pull on it. Twist and pull at the same time. Have another beer. Be sure to cover your carpet so the blood doesn't stain it.
I trimmed the bottom inch off of mine, it made them easier to remove, and I was replacing them anyway.

1 kick panel is a 2 day, 6 wound, 12-18 beer ordeal. Your neighbors kids will learn many new swearwords. Don't throw anything. Don't break anything. It will come off.

Putting it back on is easier. Get the front and top of the flange thru the hole. Twist and push while YELLING as loud as you can. It will pop in.

Make sure you have enough dumdum to get a good seal. That area inside the car is a waterfall. Everything draining off the windshield or hood, down the cowl vert grille, pours down the sides of the cowl. That flange keeps the water from coming in the vent holes. The putty seals the tube to the cowl so the water can't get in behind the kick panel.

Poorly sealed kick panels are a main cause of wet carpet and rusted out floors.

Whew... I need a beer just typing about that Godforsaken ordeal. It's been several years for me, and thinking about the experience still causes me to break out in hives.

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Re: removing kick panel

thanks for taking time to write it out, i was too having problems getting the kick panels off on my camaro. I thought i was going to break it so i stopped. I guess i better get back in and pull harder

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post #8 of 24 (permalink) Old Nov 6th, 08, 05:28 PM Thread Starter
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Thanks for taking the time to type all that out Jim, i am really not looking forward to this now! I do feel better that it wasnt just my incompetence that stopped me though
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I too recently went with the pulling off of said kick panels. I could not believe the amount of garbage behind door #1 and door #2. I have since cleaned it up pretty good. needs more so it will drain properly. I will not tackle install til everything cleaned and repainted. TAKE YOUR TIME!

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post #10 of 24 (permalink) Old Nov 7th, 08, 05:32 PM
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Agreed the driver side kick panel was a lengthy ordeal. However I happened to have 2 screwdrivers that both had a 45 degree angle at the tip. I believe one was a tire tool of some sort. I managed to get one screwdriver behind the edge and then used the other one and just worked my way around. It worked great and didn't damage the panel. Also I did trim it just a bit before I put it back in, for next time.

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post #11 of 24 (permalink) Old Nov 7th, 08, 05:56 PM
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Well written, James. You written account tells it the way it is... with all the gore included.

You missed your calling... should have been a writer.

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post #12 of 24 (permalink) Old Nov 7th, 08, 07:19 PM
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Good explanation Jim I have read it a few times in here and it was a real pain on mine too! So much so I touched up the paint on my verts kick panels while still in the car. It took alt of masking but it was worth it. I trimmed the bottoms of the hot rods panels before I re-installed them.

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post #13 of 24 (permalink) Old Nov 8th, 08, 08:49 AM
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[quote=JimM;1098562]Hi Jim!



Be sure to cover your carpet so the blood doesn't stain it.


1 kick panel is a 2 day, 6 wound, 12-18 beer ordeal. Your neighbors kids will learn many new swearwords. Don't throw anything. Don't break anything. It will come off.[quote]

2 days.........come on..........I got mine off in 2 hours.
Now only 6 wounds.........you must be more careful than me.
12-18 beers......I only drink water. It keeps the car from being burned to the ground.
Nobody learned any new swearwords.........they've heard them all so many times before, they just chant along with me....
Don't throw anything...........how do you do that .. I keep a stack of 6" long 2x4 scraps handy for projectiles. I don't care if they break and they don't do a lot of damage bouncing around in the shop...

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Re: removing kick panel

Thanks for the help, guys. I'm in process of replacing the factory kick panels with aftermarket ABS panels in my 68 convertible. They seem to be designed to never be removed. I'll work on carefully prying them loose.
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Bob - The original dum dum on the kick panels was added to prevent water seepage from the vents. Over the 40 years or so the stuff has been known to be more like gorilla glue. Welcome to TC by the way. Why not start a thread in the welcome wagon area and tell us more about you and your 68 vert!


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