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One more decent evening in the garage and I will be ready to hang the headliner. My center rod points are all good. The center mark is still there. I have to slit the rod loops, hang the middle rod, bend the points, insert rods as needed working front first, then the back. Stretch and clip. Repeat on sucessive evenings until it seems right, trim, glue. Sound right? Whats a good way to cut the courtesy light holes into the sail panels without butchering them?

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I did mine but watched plenty of video on You Tube to get an idea of what to do. It was my first one. It cam out pretty good. The hard part was the rear/sides and securing to the angle bars in the back under the sail panels. A smaller staple worked best in that area.

Also for new rear window inside molding/trim. The Trim parts piece is the way to go. The OER is not pre formed. it a piece of crap. The Trim parts piece goes in easly and mince was formed to fit the rear window nicely. Trimming might be required to get the metal trim parts back on around the new trim. It seems to be tad on the wide side.

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I learned by OJT - On the Job Training.
I bought a JC Whitney headliner, a nice one, and soaked in the sun the morning of install day.
Then slid rods in, no slits for me, installed the rods with liner into roof, snapped the rods into place, then stretched the liner to the edges, and rolled the edges over letting the 'dinosaur teeth' grab the cloth.
Center of roof rails first, then moved to window centers, then to corners.
Installed trim about the roof, done.
Thumb was sore. Had a little wrinkle on sail panels, but you don't see them at night ...
Liner came out looking good, taut and cloth pattern aligned with rail - I wasn't trying for this, just worked out this way.
I later learned others were using glue to hold the edges - didn't know this at the time.

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I wish you the best of luck.
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Good luck. There are a few things I don't do myself. Headliner installation is one.

I have an upholsterer that comes to my house and does it for $200

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I remove all the wrinkles with a warm iron before installation. Makes it a little easier. Warm not hot iron though...

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Re: Headliner

I decided not to even try and replace the original bowed headliner...
and I bought/installed TMI's one-piece molded headliner and it looks great.

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Good luck. There are a few things I don't do myself. Headliner installation is one.

I have an upholsterer that comes to my house and does it for $200
Well worth it.

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Once you've done one, you'll see it's not as bad as it seems. The only tricky part for me was cutting the slits for the bows where they attach on either end. Too long and it will sag, too short and it won't have a natural looking curve. Also, make sure it's stretched out before you bend over the center bow clips. They'll cause wrinkles if you aren't careful.

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Are the sail panels already covered? I had the advantage of making my own sail panels and cutting the light hole before I covered it. If it's already covered I would use a hole saw by hand to get through the headliner material before using the drill.

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I have a Legendary headliner and covered sails. I have done this once before and it was this same car in 73 but the glass was in. I musta forgot to put the rear tack strips back in then and done it with out them because I don't seem to have them any more and I kept about everything when I tore it apart. Gotta get more. The headliner is sewn wide so slits aren't optional. They have a notch in the stitching on center at each seam which is nice. I am practicing my cussing so I'm ready. Gotta order strips tonight someplace after one last dig through the attic. If I had a reasonable upholsterer I would likely do it Johns way though I am a bit of a knucklehead....

The Legendary sails match my original sails perfectly so I feel comfortable just transferring the holes. I have Trim Parts front and rear trim. The original lights turned out pretty good though I caught it for putting them in the dishwasher.

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Couldn't find the tack strips behind the sail panel. Couldn't figure out what anchors them either. I have slots up in the interior metal but no obvious clue to what the fasterer was. My sail panels came from Legendary with a strip of Velcro in the box, use unknown. I am thinking about velcroing the headliner behind the trim panels. What came from Legendary isn't big enough for that but ... Anybody done this? Does the stack height of the Velcro push out the sail?

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Couldn't find the tack strips behind the sail panel. Couldn't figure out what anchors them either.
Two screws. One on either end of the tack strip. It can vary what holds the sail panels on. Here's a few of pics of mine when I removed everything.


















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This out of your 69 Dave? My inner steel is a little different. No obvious mount hardware. No holes where threads ran through. A couple little slots in the correct spot for some kind of nut setup. I have found some pics on line that show the tack strip in place but not clear/close enough to show whats holding it. It makes Velcro tempting.

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This out of your 69 Dave? My inner steel is a little different. No obvious mount hardware. No holes where threads ran through. A couple little slots in the correct spot for some kind of nut setup. I have found some pics on line that show the tack strip in place but not clear/close enough to show whats holding it. It makes Velcro tempting.
My apologies. When you're restoring a 69, all questions become related to 69 lol...

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