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4 speed neutral safety switch

Would anyone have a picture of a 69 4 speed neutral safety switch's location ?? I'm sure it has to be mounted in a location in the console so the shifter handle can make contact with it to activate the reverse lights.
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Re: 4 speed neutral safety switch

The neutral starting switch was clutch-operated in 1969. I can send you a picture via email if you need one. It's mounted up under the dash.

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Re: 4 speed neutral safety switch

Thanks Daryl, not the Start switch which I know is clutch activated. The neutral saftey switch. I'm certain its mounted inside the center console.
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Re: 4 speed neutral safety switch

I'm confused. When you say "neutral safety" what else is there besides the start circuit. The clutch switch is all there is. No reason to have two switches.
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Re: 4 speed neutral safety switch

Donny,
The term "neutral safety switch" is really not correct for a manual trans car. They have a clutch safety switch which will not allow the starter to work without the clutch pedal being pushed in.

As far as the backup lights go, if I am not mistaking, the 69's are the same as my 71. The backup light switch is part of the steering column assembly. If your key is in the column this is the way it is. There should be a linkage from the reverse lever on the trans that goes up towards the front of the car to a bellcrank, then up the firewall and connects to a lever at the base of the steering column. It is the same mechanism that turns the column so that you can remove the key in reverse.

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Donny,
I am having a brain fade here and thinking we are talking about Chevelles But I am pretty sure the Camaro is the same way ??

http://www.shop.stevescamaroparts.co...tch-092912.htm

http://www.shop.stevescamaroparts.co...ars-261080.htm

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Re: 4 speed neutral safety switch

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I'm confused. When you say "neutral safety" what else is there besides the start circuit. The clutch switch is all there is. No reason to have two switches.
There is a neutral start switch and a Neutral safety switch. As mentioned above by Bill, I now realize the neutral safety switch is on the steering column. The start switch is on the clutch linkage.

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Re: 4 speed neutral safety switch

There is no such thing as a Neutral Safety Switch for a Manual Transmission. 2 things are required to engage the Starter #1 - Key is turned to Start and #2 The Clutch Petal has to be Depressed to the Floor which activates a Secondary Switch to complete the circuit to engage the Solenoid.

What good would a Neutral Safety Switch be if you had to Bump Start your Ride that has a Manual Transmission with the Key in Run Position.

Automatics have a Park and Neutral Safety Switch but will Bump Start at approx 40Mph by placing the transmission into 2nd with the Key in the Run Position.

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Check out the above links. It shows a neutral safety switch for 4 speeds???
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Bottom link "GNS-33" is reverse back-up light switch for a "69 manual trans.
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Donny -

pics of my 69 clutch safety switch in this thread: 69 Camaro Manual Trans Neutral Safety Switch

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Donny,

I will have to look in my GM parts book this evening, but I dont think GM ever called it a neutral safety switch. I think the term has just been used for so long by the aftermarket that it has caught on.

If you think about it, the switch has absolutely nothing to do with "neutral" in a manual transmission car. Why would you call it a "neutral" safety switch ?

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No I agree, it completely confused the heck out of me?? Thanks Bill.
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pics of my 69 clutch safety switch in this thread: 69 Camaro Manual Trans Neutral Safety Switch
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