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Tko 500 600 700 ?

Getting ready to buy one of these trannys. I have spoken to Shafi at Keislers and he reccommends the 700. Gonna be about 3800 bucks. What are some of you guys experiences withe tremecs? Thanks, Wayne
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Getting ready to buy one of these trannys. I have spoken to Shafi at Keislers and he reccommends the 700. Gonna be about 3800 bucks. What are some of you guys experiences withe tremecs? Thanks, Wayne
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I would do a search before I bought a 700 from Keislers. They seem to have a bad rep for actually delivering. Especially the 700s

Might want to talk to Scott at Hurst too.

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Re: Tko 500 600 700 ?

Try this guy also. AMP Performance. I got my complete kit, TKO 500 Trans, offset Mcloud shifter, Hurt shifter arm and ball, elec speedometer adepter, cross member, poly trans mount, new drive shaft assembled w/ front and rear yoke s and u-joints, Gm trans fluid, shifter plate, hat and stickers Was $3,000 shipped to my door and there was a $100.00 mail in rebate. Total, $2,900

TKO 600 /TCET5009(2.87 first and .64 OD) is listed below but I got the TKO 500 package ( 3.27 first and .64 OD) and its super.

9 pc kit for first gen http://www.ebay.com/itm/TREMEC-TKO-6...-/251130910389

Full Kit http://www.ebay.com/itm/1967-69-CAMA...-/370159874804

Call 1-800-454-8387 ex105.and ask for Tom.

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I have a TKO600 from from Jim @ Hurst.... I love it..
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Re: Tko 500 600 700 ?

X2 on the Hurst TKO 600 (was only $100 more than 500) and on researching Kiesler in the archives. Know what your potentially getting yourself into.

I got the Hurst kit that included driveshaft, offset shifter and other necessary bits plus their LuK clutch package for somewhere around $3400-$3500. It has worked flawlessly and is by far the best addition to my car.

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Re: Tko 500 600 700 ?

383 making about 500 hp and a 355 rear with 26 inch tall tires.
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383 making about 500 hp and a 355 rear with 26 inch tall tires.
The TKO 500 or 600 w/ .64 overdrive will be just fine with your setup !


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Do any of you see much of a drop off in rpm's using the tko 500, 1st is 3.27 and 2nd is 1.98 compared to the 600 with 1st 2.87 and 2nd with 1.89. The 600 is adv. as a close ratio, just wondering. Thanks, Wayne
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383 making about 500 hp and a 355 rear with 26 inch tall tires.
TKO 500 rated to 500lb/ft of torque, TKO 600 rated to 600lb/ft torque. For an extra $100 why not get the more stout one? I got the 0.64 fifth gear and can tell you after logging 400+ highway miles this Thanksgiving was absolutely the right choice. I had an M21 close ratio so the TKO feels a bit slower off the line, but I have a stock 350 from 1969. Probably makes about 230hp at this point. With 500hp (so jealous) I don't think you'll have a problem. Dyin' for a 383

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Do any of you see much of a drop off in rpm's using the tko 500, 1st is 3.27 and 2nd is 1.98 compared to the 600 with 1st 2.87 and 2nd with 1.89. The 600 is adv. as a close ratio, just wondering. Thanks, Wayne
There are calculators you can Google that compare rpm with different ratios and tire sizes. I've got a 3:55 rear, 17" rims with 245/50ZR17 (on the back) and was turning about 2200rpm at 78-80mph.

Try using this calculator to see the options;

http://www.proformancepowertrain.com...lyzer_5sp.html

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Do any of you see much of a drop off in rpm's using the tko 500, 1st is 3.27 and 2nd is 1.98 compared to the 600 with 1st 2.87 and 2nd with 1.89. The 600 is adv. as a close ratio, just wondering. Thanks, Wayne

I have a 383 with 12 bolt 4:10 posi and was running a ST-10 with a 3:42 first gear. It pulled like heck through all gears but 3,200 RPM killed me when I wanted to go on the highway at about 60 mph. I went with the TKO 500 and the 3:27 first (I posted wrong first gear ratio before) and .064 overdrive. My car pulls like it did before and now I can cruise at 70 at about 2,200 RPM. You have 3:55 gears and you will love the 3:27 first if you enjoy the off line !

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Re: Tko 500 600 700 ?

Keep in mind the TKO ratings are at 5000 lb vehicle weight. They can be uprated considerably in a first gen. The fourth to fifth drop on the TKO's is much more noticeable than any one-two drop.

BTW, difference in first gear speed at 3000 RPM and 6000 RPM redline between 500 and 600 with a 3.55 gear and 235/60 tire is only 3 mph and 6 mph respectively.

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Re: Tko 500 600 700 ?

I'm running a TKO600 from CC5S (now Hurst Driveline) and am happy -- those guys give very good post-sale support and the kit went in smoothly aside from issues I caused myself (I had some mismatched 68/69 shifter and console parts)

I picked the TKO600 over the TKO500 mostly because I like the 1/2 gear split better on the 600 (less RPM drop) but the higher torque rating for small incremental price also helped sway me.

With a 3.55 rear, that 3.27 1st is going result in a pretty aggressive 1st gear that will run out of revs quick (25mph ~= 4000 RPM). It'll be fun, but I'd be surprised if you can hook up with all that gear. By comparison, the TKO600's 2.87 1st would be at ~30mph at 4k in 1st and should still be enough gear for you to smoke em with a 383...

Sooo -- I vote TKO600 from the vendor of your choice.
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Re: Tko 500 600 700 ?

Car is sig is a 355 roller motor. 3.55 rear and the TKO 500 is perfect. Does not run out of 1st at all and at 1800 rpm freeway speed the car gets 18- 20 mpg.

I use 500s in my SB cars and 600s in BB.

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The fourth to fifth drop on the TKO's is much more noticeable than any one-two drop.
I agree that the 4/5 ratio split is noticeably "wide" but I still think the 1/2 is more noticeable. Probably because I wind out 1st gear to 6k, so I get 6000->3900 RPM change on the shift, whereas I rarely do the 4/5 shift above 80mph or so (4000-> 2600 RPM).

(just for reference, on a TKO500, the same 6000 RPM 1/2 would drop to 3600 RPM or so after the shift)
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