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post #31 of 115 (permalink) Old Mar 26th, 04, 06:19 AM
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Here are pics of the shakers that I have:


67-8 Round:







67-8 Round and Square:







67-8 Round and Square and 69 Rears:





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I have never seen the rounded top cannisters before. Interesting.

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post #33 of 115 (permalink) Old Mar 26th, 04, 10:44 AM
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They were in my 67 ragtop.

I guess I could have yanked the front shakers out of the 69 to show a complete collection, but I was feeling a little lazy today!

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The innards are a cast iron weight with some holes in it, with coil springs above and below that keep the weight centered up-down in the cylinder, and it's filled with ATF; vibration causes the weight to move up and down slightly against the spring load (the ATF flows back and forth through the calibrated holes in the weight), which damps out certain frequencies.

My Chassis Line at Willow Run filled and installed them in Corvairs in the mid-60's, and the same basic devices were used in the Camaro/Firebird later on, with different calibrations developed to respond to their unique body structural harmonic vibration frequencies. [img]graemlins/thumbsup.gif[/img]

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Paul,
You have amassed a small fortune!!! See 'em off and retire!!!

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post #36 of 115 (permalink) Old Mar 26th, 04, 04:13 PM
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LOL! Ya I probably should sell them as all they do is sit in the attic and collect dust along with the other junk up there like my GM 69 ragtop quarters, etc.

My problem is that I always think that I should keep them just in case I ever decide to restore another camaro ragtop.

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Well, here is something that is nuts....

I've got a '67 Vert, but must have been made late in the production year. It had plastic seat backs, GM logo plastic seat belts, it was a 6 cyl with a console 3 on the floor, had the 'Pacesetter' kit, and was a Norwood car registered late in the year in Calif. with orig black plates. VNV144. I've only seen 1 other '67 that had later plates.

The kicker is that I have 1968 front shakers in the car! That is the way it came. We've had this car in the family since '69 and it was bought from a family friend.

Go figure.

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post #38 of 115 (permalink) Old May 3rd, 04, 10:13 AM
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And the Pontiac engineers were too busy designing the bird design for the side marker lights

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post #39 of 115 (permalink) Old May 28th, 04, 01:23 AM
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can shakers go bad? i have a 69 with all shakers,floor brace . tires seem fine and i still have shimmy going down the road
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Quote:
Originally posted by bills69:
can shakers go bad?
Wow - good question.

As "JohnZ" discribes, and is in this and other 'cocktail shaker' posts, they are filled with ATF. The fluid is not subjected to friction, high heat or contamination as is the case with other fluid applications in the vehicle so it should not "wear out".
I would have to think the springs would be the only thing that could change, or break, that would effect their operation. I have never found a "bad" one - just cars without them that have the common 'cowl shake' much worse than normal.

I would recommend you check the wheels and tires carefully for run-out and balance.
After replacing all the body mount bushings in mine I had a four wheel thrust alignment done to be sure I got the front and rear wheels all "co-operating" in getting the car down the road straight.
Replacing the body bushings (with OEM type) did help with road isolation to some extent. You may want to inspect yours carefully, they may be so old and hard they are not helping anymore.
I would also recommend you stay away from "Poly" bushings anywhere in a convertible if you are worried about ride and road noise.

JMHO - hope others chime in with comments/suggestions.

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I'm sorry if I missed it, I've read through this a couple of times, but will the fronts from a '68 fit a '69???

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post #42 of 115 (permalink) Old Jun 1st, 04, 07:15 AM
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Ummmm....damn, I knew that I should have pulled the fronts out of the 69 for comparison. I thought that only the rears were different, but to be honest I really don't remember if the fronts are different too.

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post #43 of 115 (permalink) Old Jun 1st, 04, 08:43 AM
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69 fronts are different....the legs are different than 67-68's.

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Thank you.

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post #45 of 115 (permalink) Old Jun 4th, 04, 03:38 PM
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Ever try driving your Camaro without
the front cocktail shakers? The guy
who painted my car suggested I take
them off. Damn did it handle like crap.
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