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NCRS Shippers Reports Available May 1 2014?

Other forums are talking about this but I haven't seen anything on TC. If true, we are about to get some long sought after info for $50. The Corvette guys already get this and I was hoping for it to open for Camaros:

I contacted NCRS to see if it is legit. Here is what it says:

Welcome to the Chevrolet Historical Document Services.

With permission granted by the General Motors Heritage Center, the National Corvette Restorers Society is pleased to announce that it can now offer certain information contained in 1965 through 1972 (with some limited data) Camaro, Chevelle and Nova Month Car Shipped Reports.

http://www.chevymuscledocs.com/

Chevrolet Camaro, Chevelle or Nova Shipping Data Report can be ordered by any one.

Shipping Data Report Service

The information consists of the dealer code, dealer name, dealer address and the date the car was produced. The good news is this should allow you to find the original dealer where your Chevrolet Camaro, Chevelle or Nova was sold and possibly open the door to finding more information about your Chevrolet. A letter containing the information you request will be mailed to your address listed on this order. The cost for this service will be $50.00 USD. Pay by Credit Card or PayPal.

This service is under construction and will be available mid April. Check back often to sign up.

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Re: NICB reports Available in April 2014?

The letter would likely look something like this (openly shared on another site):

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Re: NICB reports Available in April 2014?

It went live this morning!
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Re: NICB reports Available in April 2014?

I put my two orders in already

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me too!
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Re: NICB reports Available in April 2014?

got my order in!

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LOL it went live at 0210 hours this morning.
Maybe I was the first to submit. I'll let you know when it arrives.


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Re: NICB reports Available in April 2014?

What's the take on this service? Will it start to cut down on bogus cars and counterfeit's?

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Re: NICB reports Available in April 2014?

Not an NCIB.

It is called a shipper report.
No all the info we would like to have, but a great start.
I am like many of you. I have no idea where my car was originally sold.
Now I will.

Many thanks to Roy Sinor and the NCRS for getting this going.

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Re: NICB reports Available in April 2014?

The only way you will know anything more about your car than when and where it was delivered, is if the dealer has records (very unlikely) or you can get additional information from that state on ownership...

Not a likely scenario, but knowing where it was delivered at least gives you a clue to its past...

I *think* mine was delivered to a dealer in New Jersey...in a few weeks I will know for sure and go from there.
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Re: NICB reports Available in April 2014?

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What's the take on this service? Will it start to cut down on bogus cars and counterfeit's?
IMO Yes and no - Because some of the original GM records were no longer in the original NCIB paper-files let alone converted to microfiche they would be missing in the collection NCRS has presented for sale. But there is a good chance the majority of Camaro's are there.

Only time will tell if these NCRS certificates hold their own as a countermeasure. Since all real traceable data has been sanitized you can't trace the original as shipped with options. The certificates being offered only confirm the vehicle identification number against the dealer records and production date. The original NCIB records had the invoice, shipping weight, dealer and ordering customer if not for dealer stock.

Still nice paperwork to have, especially if your cars original dealer survived the bankruptcy and may still have paper on it in storage. I can see the dealers who do still have records starting their own archive services for fee. All they really have to do is sanitize names and addresses of original owners to conform to the Federal Privacy act.


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Re: NICB reports Available in April 2014?

I guess that it will provide a legitimate piece of documentation for owners of rare cars. For the rest, it seems like a bit of a cash grab, IMO.

Then again, I've paid more for less, as I'm sure most have.
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I guess that it will provide a legitimate piece of documentation for owners of rare cars. For the rest, it seems like a bit of a cash grab, IMO.

Then again, I've paid more for less, as I'm sure most have.
The one thing I can promise you is that this is not a cash grab.
NCRS worked really hard to get this info. Then they had to manually convert all that info from microfiche into a digital form so it would be searcheable.

NCRS spent over $100k getting that done. The $50 fee is simply to offset that expense.


How many cars are out there with fake POP, fake Window Sticker, etc. The chances that those scum bags who paid to have fake docs made, along with the scum bags who forged the docs for them guessed the right dealer is somewhere between slim and none. A lot of big money fake cars will be exposed.

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I guess that it will provide a legitimate piece of documentation for owners of rare cars.
On the other hand, you may find your plain Jane 6-banger Camaro was sold/delivered to Nickey Chevrolet. Wouldn't that be cool to find out?

Then you CAN say you do have a Nickey Chevrolet.

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LOL it went live at 0210 hours this morning.
Maybe I was the first to submit. I'll let you know when it arrives.
The confirmation email I got says "Thank you for your order nr. 58" That was at about 6:30 this morning, so you probably were the first. I'm not up that early or that late!
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