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post #1 of 20 (permalink) Old May 28th, 10, 07:58 PM Thread Starter
 
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1969 Copo convertible

Does anyone if they ever made a 1969 Copo convertible?
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post #2 of 20 (permalink) Old May 28th, 10, 09:45 PM
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Re: 1969 Copo convertible

No Chevrolet did not.

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No Chevrolet did not.

I would say that none have been found or are known to have been built.

Did Chevy ever make a Z28 conv.???? Up until not too awful many years ago the answer was 'no'...until one was found !!!
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But there were many more Z's than COPO's made, so I guess the chance to find one is bigger. But I'm 99.9% sure no 427 convertible cars were made in 69'.

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Did Chevy ever make a Z28 conv.???? Up until not too awful many years ago the answer was 'no'...until one was found !!!
I think that was pretty much known for at least 30 years or more. There wasnt much dispute about that one with all the docs and paperwork it had.

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Re: 1969 Copo convertible

There could be a 1969 COPO Camaro convertible but maybe not a 427 COPO Camaro.

I know you are asking about a 427 COPO but a Camaro convertible ordered with a COPO option instead of a RPO option could have been built.

An example is COPO 9511 4:56 gear ratio

4:10 gear was RPO

4:56 gear was COPO in 1969
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I would say that none have been found or are known to have been built.

Did Chevy ever make a Z28 conv.???? Up until not too awful many years ago the answer was 'no'...until one was found !!!
They made one 1968 Z/28 Camaro convertible for Peter Estes, a GM manager. He refused to drive anything but convertibles and wanted a Z/28

It really confuses me that the rare "barn-find" in untouched and all original condition is the hot rodder's dream come true. It seems we love originality, yet we can't wait to destroy it.

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They made one 1968 Z/28 Camaro convertible for Peter Estes, a GM manager. He refused to drive anything but convertibles and wanted a Z/28
Does that car still exsits today?

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Re: 1969 Copo convertible

Yes it still exists.


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yes

according to this article it had JL8 4 wheel disk, cross ram, fiberglass cowl hood, ft and rear sway bar, 4:88 gear, Chevy part no. Koni shocks, HD clutch, etc

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That's such a cool car! It sure is expensive !

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The story is a fairy tale. The car was built July, 1968 long after the crossram, 4 wheel discs and other added items were featured in the May 1968 issue of Hot Rod magazine. This car had nothing to do with any of it getting developed. It also was not built under a COPO. I have copies of paperwork for it and it was ordered as a standard Z/28-no COPO on any of it.

There may be another reason all that stuff was added and the car paraded around the country. I was at the Road America Vintage races a few years back when Corvette was the featured car. In the main display tent was Gib Hufstader, noted in Paul Van Valkenburgs' excellent book Chevy = Racing? as the engineer responsible for developing the JL-8 option. He told me by the end of the '68 season the SCCA was certain they had been hoodwinked by Chevy; letting them run parts that really weren't available to mere mortals. So here is a Z/28 convertible [!] with all the racing stuff.

Gib said they weren't convinced until someone took them to a dealer that had a JL-8 Camaro in stock.

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Re: 1969 Copo convertible

Wow William that is some interesting info. Would love to hear more.

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So would I but the line to speak with Gib was growing impatient. He was involved with Chevy "product performance" back to Day One, 1955 or so. Worked with Duntov, Yunick.

Some books I highly recommend:

Yunicks' book "Best Damn Garage In Town" is fascinating; he had a long, love/hate relationship with Chevy. Some of the stuff we cherish was developed by him; Z/28 plenum air intake, angle-plug heads. Probably all of the hemi 302 parts that exist today came from his shop auction along with '70 Camaro #1. He very briefly mentions the hemi project calling it a "one half million dollar trip to sh*tsville." He also built a couple of Trans-Am Camaros that didn't do much. One of them was the source of the famous tech inspection story.

Mark Donohues' book "The Unfair Advantage" has a chapter on the Penske Trans-Am Camaros of course. Another love/hate relationship with Chevy that deteriorated to their defection to American Motors for the '70 season. Quite a ballsy move for a guy that owned a Chevy dealership.

Van valkenburghs' book is back in print I believe. He was there for most of interesting years and did his homework developing the history of what transpired before his time. He worked with all the usual suspects and revealed a wealth of knowledge about those years. One surprising aspect of his and Yunicks' books is drag racing is virtually unmentioned.

The absolute best tech book for Chevy-developed racing parts back in the day is "Camaro Untold Secrets" by Wayne Guinn. Lots of photos, factory documentation and the stories that go with them.

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Re: 1969 Copo convertible

Thanks William I have all the books except the Chevy=Racing. I will have to pick it up for sure. I just love reading about info for the first time or getting different veiw points.

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