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I love old tools like that.

I'm on garagejournal.com too,I dig the old garage stuff, vises,anvils,power tools....
I can completely relate to the emotional attachment to a tool that you remember being there when you were growing up. I've got my dad's vise and anvil (along with countless other tools) in my garage. The vise is from a Canadian Pacific Railway blacksmith shop where he worked and is huge (10" wide jaws that open even more than that, it must weigh more than 150 lbs).
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I have my Dad's all aluminum Craftsman hand drill and the armature is missing copper pieces where the brushes ride. The armature is no longer available online. I dought my B&D armature from my plastic cased drill would fit. There is a place in town that carries old old parts that could have one. I'd have to check.

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That drill press motor is a dual winding type. There is a centrifugal switch with springs on the bottom that changes it from a low speed winding to the high speed winding. When you shut the motor off, you'll hear a click as the winding switches back to low. Some times they hang up & do not switch back to the low, "start" winding. Then it will try to start on the "high" winding which is low Torque. It's best to replace these with capacitor start motors if they go bad.

If you bog this motor down enough, it'll start clicking, trying to shift to the start winding.

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The new machines definitely don't compare to some of the vintage iron. I was thinking about "restoring" this one, but I like it the way it is.
My tools are a like a lot of my firearms. They have scratches and get a little banged up because they get used, but they're reliable and shoot straight.
It's 1/4 horse.

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Pretty darn beefy motor for a drill! Especially if you couple it with the pulley system you have on it.

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That drill press motor is a dual winding type. There is a centrifugal switch with springs on the bottom that changes it from a low speed winding to the high speed winding. When you shut the motor off, you'll hear a click as the winding switches back to low. Some times they hang up & do not switch back to the low, "start" winding. Then it will try to start on the "high" winding which is low Torque. It's best to replace these with capacitor start motors if they go bad.

If you bog this motor down enough, it'll start clicking, trying to shift to the start winding.
I doubt it'll be all that easy to swap it over to a capacitor start motor (physical size, shaft size, etc). Also being 1/4 horse it might not be dual winding since it's small enough to not need it.

Besides I just prefer the old stuff. A capacitor motor would never have lasted as long as this one did.

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That drill press motor is a dual winding type. There is a centrifugal switch with springs on the bottom that changes it from a low speed winding to the high speed winding. When you shut the motor off, you'll hear a click as the winding switches back to low. Some times they hang up & do not switch back to the low, "start" winding. Then it will try to start on the "high" winding which is low Torque. It's best to replace these with capacitor start motors if they go bad.

If you bog this motor down enough, it'll start clicking, trying to shift to the start winding.
It does have the centrifugal switch. It works well, so I'll leave it. I like that it's the original motor, but if it didn't work well, I'd change it out.


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It's 1/4 horse.

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Pretty darn beefy motor for a drill! Especially if you couple it with the pulley system you have on it.
It's actually a 1/3 hp motor. Definitely does the trick.

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I used a slightly newer model late 40's Delta drill press for many years and it's still going in our farm shop. I took it apart and cleaned/lubed it. Ours had a little gearbox add-on below the spindle that geared it down for more power but it slowed it down too. I have drilled 1 1/8" holes with it, but it was a struggle. I have a newer Taiwan drill press at home that uses a 1hp motor and I think you need that much in a modern rated motor. My home drill press has a larger reach, but is not as stiff and it does not drill large holes very smoothly, it wants to chatter and slip the belt with big 1" plus bits. I have an old huge Buffalo drill press that could handle anything but it needs wiring. That thing kinda scares me!

This is exactly like our old Delta 17" except it has a foot operated feed.

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I used a slightly newer model late 40's Delta drill press for many years and it's still going in our farm shop. I took it apart and cleaned/lubed it. Ours had a little gearbox add-on below the spindle that geared it down for more power but it slowed it down too. I have drilled 1 1/8" holes with it, but it was a struggle. I have a newer Taiwan drill press at home that uses a 1hp motor and I think you need that much in a modern rated motor. My home drill press has a larger reach, but is not as stiff and it does not drill large holes very smoothly, it wants to chatter and slip the belt with big 1" plus bits. I have an old huge Buffalo drill press that could handle anything but it needs wiring. That thing kinda scares me!

This is exactly like our old Delta 17" except it has a foot operated feed.
Both of those presses in your pic are pretty cool. Too bad you weren't closer. I enjoy re-wiring different things. I went to school for electronics, but I didn't stay in the field.
I have no idea what the limits of mine are. I haven't found them yet lol. I haven't gone too crazy with steel though. My bits are limited.

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Here's my Buffalo 20" drill press. It's Navy surplus from the 40's. I think the motor is 3 hp 3 phase220.
I need to install the 3 phase contactor and hook up the foot pedal. This drill press has power down feed, which is the drive attachment on the RH side of the photo. It drives a quill down to the gearbox just above the morse taper. Handle on top left is the drive engagement in-out. The manual says you can even do some milling with it, but you'd need a cross feed table. I need a ladder to change belt positions...
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Here's my Buffalo 20" drill press. It's Navy surplus from the 40's. I think the motor is 3 hp 3 phase220.
I need to install the 3 phase contactor and hook up the foot pedal. This drill press has power down feed, which is the drive attachment on the RH side of the photo. It drives a quill down to the gearbox just above the morse taper. Handle on top left is the drive engagement in-out. The manual says you can even do some milling with it, but you'd need a cross feed table. I need a ladder to change belt positions...
Wow! What a tank. You can do some serious drilling with that bad boy. I doubt there's much that would slow that down.

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