This is a repost of a problem that I have been having.

I still haven't figured out why the crossmember will not line up with the holes in the transmission mount. I have checked and rechecked everything and all seems to be as it should be.

The transmission mount holes will not line up with the slots in the crossmember. The transmission appears to be about 1/2 inch to 3/4 inch too far forward. This is a Muncie M20 (1970 date code) and I bought a used crossmember for the car, it didn't have an engine or transmission in it when I got the car.

The frame mounts are from NPD as are the motor mounts and all are for a small block. The crossmember is for a small block, according to CRG, it has the oval slots in it. The transmission mount is also from NPD.

I have tried everything I can think of, but nothing has worked.

Does anyone have any ideas?

I bought a used crossmember for the car,

Does anyone have any ideas?

Could the crossmember be wrong?
Maybe for a similar, but different car?
Is your motor in the car now?
If so how much room between the dizzy and firewall, with what size cap?
Or how about the clutch Z-bar does it fit right?
I will compare measurements on mine if you want. My current trans is different but I have the old one and stock 4 speed crossmember somewhere. ---Bill.

try turning it around I think the holes are not in the middle of member

Hi, the motor is in the car and the distributor, a Mallory dual point with a female socket style cap, sits 2 inches in front of the firewall.

The crossmember - I don't know. The guy I bought it from said that it was out of a 68 Camaro, and I think that is accurate. It looks just like the pictures that I have seen in the parts catalogs.

The Z-bar doesn't fit right either. It is angled forward, toward the front of the car instead of sitting at a 90 degree angle to the motor. It looks like it is about 1/2 to 3/4 inch off, just like the holes in the crossmember. This is consistent with the motor being too far forward.

This is looking like the problem is with the frame stands and/or the motor mounts.

I read on this board that the frame stands should sitck over the rear edge of the crossmember by about 3/4 inch when mounted. My frame stands barley stick over the crossmember, actually they are almost flush with the rear edge of it.



What do you think?

The crossmember has to be mounted in the car the way that I have it in order for the Muncie shifter to be installed. The member has factory holes drilled in it on only one side and this is where the shifter mounts. If I turn it around, the shifter mounting holes will be on the wrong side.

What do you think?

Looks like the wrong frame stands to me. I don't know for sure that mine are right, but I only have about 3/4" between my MSD small base dizzy cap and the firewall.
My stands hang back off the subframe 3/4".
Here's a pic of the left side, it's hard to see, but between the back control arm washer and the header you'll see a brake line that goes under the stand and behind the subframe crossmember.

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a224/sc68z28/2-05-07001.jpg

---Bill.

your shifter mounts to the cross member? I haven't seen that before.

What happens when the rubber mount flexes?
Sorry if i'm way off but the shifter in my 4speed mounts to the tranny not the crossmember?
Like this:http://www.chevyhiperformance.com/howto/97440/photo_03.html

The original Muncie shifter mounts to the crossmember while the Hurst shifter mounts to the transmission.

Is the motor centered on your car. Big block frame stands move the engine forward approximately 1/2 inch. If you look down at your harmonic balancer and pulleys, you normally can see if the motor is offset. Also I have heard of 3-bolt holes in the frame rails allowing the crossmember to be bolted in at different locations. How does your driveshaft fit ?

are the frame stands on the proper sides?
i think if you put the right on the left, and the left on the right, the engine will be pushed forward.

are the frame stands on the proper sides?
i think if you put the right on the left, and the left on the right, the engine will be pushed forward.
I think they are mounted correctly. The driver's side frame stand still has a sticker on that says "Left".

can you have a Firebird cross member instead of a Camaro crossmember?
I believe the Firebird cross member is close to Camaro except for the slotted holes. Can you post a picture of the cross member hole area?

Sounds like wrong and/or improperly mounted stands to me too. Here are some pics of my '68 with 327 stands:

http://www.blown.net/ls1swap/DSCF2327.jpg

http://www.blown.net/ls1swap/DSCF3109.jpg

[QUOTE=Rodder;720240]Sounds like wrong and/or improperly mounted stands to me too. Here are some pics of my '68 with 327 stands:

I agree, STANDS!

OBTW excellent pics,:yes: thats what mine looks like. ---Bill.

What do you know about the car...did you buy it with the motor out of it? If so it could have had anything in it for engine stands...might even be 6 cyl stands.

What do you know about the car...did you buy it with the motor out of it? If so it could have had anything in it for engine stands...might even be 6 cyl stands.

Thanks. The car did not have a motor in it when I bought it, but it did not have any frame stands in it either.

I am pretty sure that this car was probably a 327. It had factory air and mono leaf springs so, from what I have read here and at CRG, I don't think it was a big block car. The VIN indicates a V8, so I am guessing a 327.

So, guys, the consensus seems to be that the problem is with the frame stands. I have been searching the net for frame stands for a 68 with 350 but do not find any. I have found several places that offer frame stands for a 69 with 350 and it seems that these stands solve a problem with an 8" balancer touching the sway bar.

The stands that are in the car now position my 8" balancer about 1/2" above the sway bar.

Does anyone know if the 350 frame mounts for a 1969 will fit the 68 and move the engine back about 3/4 inch?

This is from Marty in Tech support at Rick's (First generation): Order part number CD59LH and CD59RH for the frame brackets and two of NG95 for the mounts.

Here is my original question: I am putting a 350 in my 6 cylinder 1967 Camaro. I need to order the correct frame and engine mounts from you. Can you give me part numbers?

So, guys, the consensus seems to be that the problem is with the frame stands. I have been searching the net for frame stands for a 68 with 350 but do not find any.



Yes, use the 69's. I think 69 302/350 hiperf had a larger 8" balancer and needed a taller stand. So when using the 8" balancer, in a 68, you need 69 small block tall stands. (classic industries # E291) I think you currently have big block stands, they would be tall, but also move everything forward and to the right. ---Bill.