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: Emblem Installation Question


ironwood
Apr 14th, 03, 03:32 PM
My 68 had new GM fenders, inners and rear quarters installed during its resto a number of years ago. I don't know why, but the guy who owned it didn't have any of the emblems re-installed. I have the new emblems and template, but I realized that the nuts on the emblems on the rear of the front fender can't be installed without some dis-assembly.

Two questions:

1. Can I get to the inside of the fender by removing the kick panel.

2. I have seen posts talking about using double stick tape instead of drilling post holes through the body. The emblems that I got from Rick's are concave on the back side, I don't know if the tape will work well. Thanks for the help.

New pictures coming soon (after emblem installation) graemlins/thumbsup.gif

Unreal
Apr 14th, 03, 04:04 PM
You cannot get to the back of the fender through the kick panel, and believe me it's easier to get to it from the outside than the inside. There's a few ways that guys go.
1. Double sided tape
2. Barrel nuts which are little spring cups that you install in oversized holes, and push the pins on the emblems into them.
3. Install stamped steel self tapping nuts from the back side.

3 is the way the factory did it, but it is more work. The disassembly is just a couple of the fender bolts to allow you access from the bottom of the fender. Some guys use a 2x4 to hold the fender out. I was afraid of chipping the paint, so I held the fender out while my skinny-armed painter installed the nuts. Run the nuts on before you install the emblems to cut the threads. That will make it easier once you are threadinf from behind the fender.

1 and 2 are easier, but leave the emblem slightly out from the fender.

By the way, I had a set of repop and NOS fender emblems. The pins are not in the same place. I pushed the pins over a piece of cereal box cardboard, and then cut out the "Camaro" That way I could tape the cardboard emblem on and stand back to make sure it was level. I see some level, some up from left to right, and some down from left to right.

If you want placement dimensions, let me know.

ironwood
Apr 14th, 03, 04:29 PM
Thanks Unreal, I appreciate experienced opinions like yours, it is very helpful. I like the idea of installing the nuts on the back side of the fender. I would guess many guys on this site are like me...I have to assemble and disassemble, install and re-install "in my head" all week long, then when Sat comes I know exactly what my plan is. :rolleyes: I don't like to make mistakes because I didn't have a plan. I am on the road this week, so I can't run out to the garage to look at the fender to see which bolts need to come out...so where are they located?

Thanks again

Unreal
Apr 15th, 03, 05:55 AM
Three have to come out, for sure...two along the bottom of the fender, and one in the wheelwell. I would figure out the ones that will keep the fender from moving (if you are aligned, you don't want to start that process over!), and then loosen any others that might bind the fender.

As for the cardboard cutout. I cut the outside shape of "Camaro" and then outlined and colored in the spaces between the letters. That made the script stand out well, so you could make sure it is level.

ORENCH
Apr 15th, 03, 12:24 PM
If you use the template, like I did on mine, make sure the hole markings on the template coincide with the emblem's studs before you drill the fender. I found that the template markings didn't exactly match the emblem's studs positions and corrected the markings before drilling. graemlins/thumbsup.gif Measure twice and drill once.

Unreal
Apr 16th, 03, 04:08 AM
Even with the cardboard template I used, and "Very, very carefully" marking the fender, I was still off a smidgen. I used small pilot holes first, and then "snuck up" on the correct size. You can move the hole a little bit one way or the other. Or use the drill as a reamer, and move it a little. Then the final size, which I wrote down as 11/64.

By the way....DO NOT use the dimensions in the assembly manual. I used a dial caliper to mark out the holes from the left side on a piece of paper, then superimposed the holes from the right side. THEY ARE NOT THE SAME!!. One was level, and the other had the script running up. Not only that but I laid an NOS badge over the holes, and the pins did not line up. Maybe that's why you see badges that run up to the right on very nice cars.

I spent several hours preparing the templates (mine included the YENKO badge below the Camaro), and laying out the holes. In my opinion, time well spent.