any of you painted a car with rustoluem and a roller. read about it on some other forums....takes approx 6 coats with wet sanding in between....here are pics of a panel i am trying it on:

ok, tried the first 2 coats on a fender piece i had laying around. cleaned it, cut the rustoleum with mineral spirits, 50-50, rolled on, let stand for 15 min, then rolled it again to get off the bubbles...did the blowing on it trick (yea yea yea) let it dry. An hour later, put on second coat. Stopped there. It sat for about 6 hours and it wont rub off or scratch off with finger nail. Tomorrow, will do the first wet sand and 2 more coats. If it works, i am going to do my 68 camaro this way. I also spoke with a friend who says i should use the marine paint he used on his boat. This guy has painted a couple of hundred cars and says "yeah, you can use a roller, there is no overspray and prep is a lot less"....... here are some pics
panel
http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f300/s4dustin/PICT0024-1.jpg
lst coat
http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f300/s4dustin/PICT0028-1.jpg
http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f300/s4dustin/PICT0029-2.jpg
http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f300/s4dustin/PICT0030-1.jpg
second coat
http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f300/s4dustin/PICT0031-1.jpg
http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f300/s4dustin/PICT0031-2.jpg
http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f300/s4dustin/PICT0033.jpg
http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f300/s4dustin/PICT0034.jpg
it has a nice gloss to it, you can see your reflection in the paint. still need to wet sand and then do coats 3-6

wow cool project, i saw the big thread about this roller painting that the guy did on his cuda. It looked really good once it was done. Please update us on how it turns out. I wish you good luck.

New things like this are awesome!! I'm glad your trying this out.:thumbsup:

hmmmmmmmm.............

i dont know what to think.......

Cool. But the whole idea sorta has a "Martha Stewart meets body work" flavor :p I can't wait to see how it turns out.
Scott

Keep us posted

If you talk to any old time painter, they will tell you that they would paint cars with brushes, then water sand and then rub it down with corn starch paste then wax. Heck..back in the late 70s early 80 I painted alot of cars using enamel and used an old painters trick. They would heat up the paint then spray it so it would flow out like glass :) Once I changed to the Dupont Centari w/hardner I stoped shooting straight enamel. I even shot door jambs and trunk area with enamel mixed with lacquer thinner so it dried fast and I could close the hood,trunk,doors and shoot the rest of the car :) Enjoy your test..it will be fun and turn out great.

Kev

I would just spray it, all that wetsanding would be no fun.

What are the black streaks? It would be a much better job to get a gallon of single stage automative laquer a small compressor and spray it. You could do one or two panels at a time if you wanted to. Then wetsand and rub it out.Not the most advanced way compared to todays paint systems but you could get a real nice job and its how it was done in the 70's 80's. I would do that before i tried the rustoleum.

I read the enormous thread on this on one of the Chrysler boards. The guy swears it's easy once you get the 'feel' for it, and you can skip all the taping, masking, and trying to build a paint booth in your garage. His car looked great in the photos. I'm still going to spray mine but for some folks and under the right circumstances...why not ?

i do not really know what to say???????????/

wow..........interesting

What's next, spraying two stage on the bedroom walls?

Huh?

I assume once u get the rest of the coats on the roller marks arent visible and its a solid color?

Any links to the other discussions with more pics I just like browseing

i wet sanded it (never done it before) and applied a few more coats...figured why waste....i think i put too much on too fast. I will wet sand it today and continue....... Some of my boat buddies swear by it, to use marine paint.....i may do that on the 68.... it is 250 a gallon, but is supposed to be amazing....we shall see

... Some of my boat buddies swear by it, to use marine paint.....i may do that on the 68.... it is 250 a gallon, but is supposed to be amazing....we shall see ...


Hmmmmmmm - I'm not even sure about the advise on what kind of vegetable to put in my Bloody Mary in the morning I'd get from most of my 'boat buddies' over at the "Rusty Porthole" - but take paint advise from those guys :noway:

Remember that 'Marine' paints have lots of properties about them that don't make them the best automotive paints ...
The majority have "anti-fouling" additives that can effect their performance as a top coat for automotive in single-stage systems. These types of paints also don't take clear coat very well, delamination or pealing of the clear coats is very common.
Most are also formulated with added 'flex-agents' in them for use on fiberglass substrates.

You can get a complete Automotive Paint Kit from online retailers for under $200 - so $250 a gallon without cat & reducers doesn't sound like much of a bargain to me ...
Here is a link to one kit @$180 - http://www.smartshoppersinc.com/Kirker/acrylic-urethanes.html

Hmmmmmmm - I'm not even sure about the advise on what kind of vegetable to put in my Bloody Mary in the morning I'd get from most of my 'boat buddies' over at the "Rusty Porthole" - but take paint advise from those guys :noway:

Remember that 'Marine' paints have lots of properties about them that don't make them the best automotive paints ...
The majority have "anti-fouling" additives that can effect their performance as a top coat for automotive in single-stage systems. These types of paints also don't take clear coat very well, delamination or peali

ng of the clear coats is very common.
Most are also formulated with added 'flex-agents' in them for use on fiberglass substrates.

You can get a complete Automotive Paint Kit from online retailers for under $200 - so $250 a gallon without cat & reducers doesn't sound like much of a bargain to me ...
Here is a link to one kit @$180 - http://www.smartshoppersinc.com/Kirker/acrylic-urethanes.html


CAN YOU ROLL THOSE ON TOO?

***Giving the Inquisitive Dr. Evil Pinky Look***

Hmmm?????

so i put coats 3-4 on way too thick...i laid the 1/4 in the sun to dry....i will have to wetsand the hell out of it. so far, i think the thinner you put it on the better. more to come.

This is too much

What about the black spots in the paint or am I the only one that see this?
I think MACCO had better watch out...Eric

I always paint the underside of My hoods with Black Rustoleum when the Hood is off. I cut the Rustoleum down by adding about 25% Low Odor Mineral Spirits and use a Soft paint brush and lay it out with 3 or 4 thin coats and I make sure the paint get in between the two layers of sheet metal. I let the Hood dry slowing in My garage overnight and then lay it out in the Hot Florida sun for a day and it hardens in about a week or so just about the time I need to install the Hood back on the Car. Rustoleum takes a long time to harden and it not very good about UV rays so I don't think it would be good for external use on a Car. Block sanding on slow drying painy is alot of work and think of all that sandpaper costs. Well let us know and see how it turns out.

Here ya go this guy painted his charger with a roller: http://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=2331682&page=0&fpart=1&vc=1

Here ya go this guy painted his charger with a roller: http://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=2331682&page=0&fpart=1&vc=1

After spending an hour reading most of that thread, I want to go out and buy a roller and some paint and have some fun. That guy's charger looks pretty nice!

Here ya go this guy painted his charger with a roller: http://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=2331682&page=0&fpart=1&vc=1

Very interesting reading...thanks for the link..

Funny how some turn their nose up at this. How do you think paint was done years ago? There are guys experimenting with this all over the place. Check out the cars in this link.

http://www.honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1555133&page=45

Here Is A PDF of DuPont's 2K primer roller application:http://www.performancecoatings.dupont.com/dpc/en/us/html/prodinfo/chromasystem/K-15892_RollerApp_4004s.pdf

I wonder how good this would work? sure would keep the neighbors out of my hair.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v334/satatic/68camaro/P1040366.jpg

This is farm&implament paint mixed 8:1 with hardener, thinned I don't know how much, and sprayed on in one coat. Just playing around with it. Sanded off after a few days. I wouldn't do it on my car right now but if I had lots of cars I might try it. My friend did his truck in bright yellow and it faded really bad, butternut yellow now, but can be polished back to how it was after the spray. Lot of work though.

Ummmm i'm sooo not makin any redneck jokes...well in my head i am but i promise i wont in public. Jeff Foxworthy would have a field day with this thread. 1 quick quest---has anyone seen the results in person up close

What about the black spots in the paint or am I the only one that see this?
I think MACCO had better watch out...Eric

No i asked about it on the first page of this thread.Didnt get an answer.Maybe nobody will notice them.:o I still say your better off doing a laquer job if you dont want to spray urethane. Less effort and a better finish. I cant imagine how many mils ( thats paint thickness for you roller jockeys) you end up with after that roller job. I think if it was really possible you would see more.Also there is no UV protection so for all your effort your paint job will chalk out in the weather.

What are the black streaks? It would be a much better job to get a gallon of single stage automative laquer a small compressor and spray it. You could do one or two panels at a time if you wanted to. Then wetsand and rub it out.Not the most advanced way compared to todays paint systems but you could get a real nice job and its how it was done in the 70's 80's. I would do that before i tried the rustoleum.

hmmmmmmmm.............

i dont know what to think.......


ditto!

No i asked about it on the first page of this thread.Didnt get an answer.Maybe nobody will notice them.:o I still say your better off doing a laquer job if you dont want to spray urethane. Less effort and a better finish. I cant imagine how many mils ( thats paint thickness for you roller jockeys) you end up with after that roller job. I think if it was really possible you would see more.Also there is no UV protection so for all your effort your paint job will chalk out in the weather.

The black spots are where the paint has not covered yet. You need to roll at least 6 coats for complete coverage. The pics he posted are of the first few coats. Doubt he'll post anymore since there are so many dogging him about it. I know I wouldn't.

I'm only up to page 11 on the Mopar thread. It certainly looks interesting. The main guy in that thread has done several cars this way, at least one has 6 years of driving on it and he claims it looks the same as the day he finished.
The finish doesn't have that deep deep paint look of BC/CC, but it is supposed to look very nice, and more akin to how original paint looked on these cars.

For those that didn't read the Mopar thread, this method is not for a show car, but for someone who wants to get the car painted and on the road. The advantages mentioned were:
1. Cheap
2. Durable/Chip resistant
3. No paint booth-paint in hair-paint in nose
4. Finished results (in that thread) speak for themselves

Dustin,
Put some more pics up and keep us updated. Thanks for trying something new.

Scott

For those that didn't read the Mopar thread, this method is not for a show car, but for someone who wants to get the car painted and on the road. The advantages mentioned were:
1. Cheap
2. Durable/Chip resistant
3. No paint booth-paint in hair-paint in nose
4. Finished results (in that thread) speak for themselves

Dustin,
Put some more pics up and keep us updated. Thanks for trying something new.

Scott

Obviously many didn't read it or check the link I posted earlier from the honda forum. Yes, this is not for a show car. To be honest with you, I have seen this topic pop up on quite a few boards and this is the first where there has been such a negative response.

Would I personally do this to one of my cars? Probably not. Have I seen one in person? No, but it's an interesting read.

Dustin, I second the put some more pics up and thanks for trying something new.

I too would like to see some of your finished results. It would be nice to see a $$$/time ratio compared to DIY spray. And let the finished prouct speak for itself.

I have only seen a couple of cars painted (brushed on) and they looked BAD> I think that they had used latex paint it was so streaky. If this is possible now with todays technology all for the better!!!

please do post up the pics. we learn something every day!!!

I read the Mopar thread when it first came up. Yeah, many have tried it but i have YET to see anyone post any results that look like anything on the Mopar thread. Im not dogging,Its just funny watching everyone getting exited over this,everyone looking for a cheap easy way out. You will spend 10 times the effort and time invested with a roller than if you spent a weekend practicing with a cheap spray gun. Six coats for coverage?You have any idea the thickness of six coats of rustoleum applied with a roller?

Anything is possible...LOL.

I had a nieghbor when I was a kid that painted his car with lucite house paint and one of the old pump bug sprayers. It looked like hell to everyone but him.

Thickness probably isn't an issue the way it's thinned down so much.

I read the Mopar thread when it first came up. Yeah, many have tried it but i have YET to see anyone post any results that look like anything on the Mopar thread. Im not dogging,Its just funny watching everyone getting exited over this,everyone looking for a cheap easy way out. You will spend 10 times the effort and time invested with a roller than if you spent a weekend practicing with a cheap spray gun. Six coats for coverage?You have any idea the thickness of six coats of rustoleum applied with a roller?

The Mopar thread goes for 43 pages...took me about 8 hours to read it. At the end, it links to a continuation thread that is so far 65 pages long. I don't know when you read it last, but there are a lot of people with complete cars that look VERY nice.

A lot of the guys doing this method don't have a garage to set up a paint booth in, or it's too dirty and spraying will only kick up dirt into the paint.
The paint is thinned so much that even after 3-4 coats, it is still transparant in places, like in original pics in this thread, so I wouldn't think it is very thick at all.

Never done it, but I'm not gonna discourage anyone from trying. Some folks have had some really good results...some haven't. And if doesn't turn out well? It cost you $50 and couple weekends of labor. Big stinking deal...

Scott

I read the Mopar thread when it first came up. Yeah, many have tried it but i have YET to see anyone post any results that look like anything on the Mopar thread. Im not dogging,Its just funny watching everyone getting exited over this,everyone looking for a cheap easy way out. You will spend 10 times the effort and time invested with a roller than if you spent a weekend practicing with a cheap spray gun. Six coats for coverage?You have any idea the thickness of six coats of rustoleum applied with a roller?

Here you go. Guy painted a corvair. http://www.rickwrench.com/50dollarpaint.html

I'm not trying to convince anyone either way, so this is my last post on this subject.

I read the threads on the guy with the Charger, and it looks like he basically did it to just get the car out on the road and drive and enjoy it. Isn't that what this hobby is all about? driving your classic? getting out there and enjoying it?

Probably the majority of the folks in here are in the a simaller financial situation as I am, it is going to take me forever to save up enough dough just to shell it all out to a body shop, on top of that who knows how long the car is going to sit in the body shop.

I have done some figuring on how much money is needed to spend on paint equipment and supplies......and that is also out of the question. I really want to get out driving my Camaro ASAP, I mean it has been about five years since I last drove it, I also figure that at my broke situation, it should take me about twenty years to come up with the money just for the paint job, but I sure can come up with about $50 within a short amount time!

Like that guy has said over and over again,"It is NOT a show car!" and that is how I am about mine,(call it old school if you want)

I have seen in California four Hispanics with Paint rollers, Paint a big pickup truck within minutes! Ya I laughed, but then I realised that that truck has been sitting on the street for some time and it was looking like it was abandoned, but after they painted it, it made the whole neighborhood look so much better just with that one change! in fact I think Property values went up within just those few minutes lol.

I'm not saying that I would do THAT to my car, but sometimes a person can be making more good than he realizes.

My Camaro is just sitting in my garage in a million pieces waiting for future funding, it sux! I want to drive it! I for one, want to at least give anything a try at this point in time!

If all else fails at least I can just sand it off and have it done another way, I am going to at least try it out on a fender, if it doesn't work, then lesson learned, I CAN afford a lesson like that on my budget, and at least I get to work on the car instead of just letting it sit there gathering dust(to me a roll on paint job looks WAY better then the car covered in dust)

If I come across a bunch of money down the road, I can always have the car redone professionally if I want...............007 (just my $.02)

the textured look... My hallway was done like that... but I think we used a sponge. :clonk:

I think I'd still try to spray the car with a cheap sprayer in the drive before rolling it. Even if it was with Rustoleum.

the textured look... My hallway was done like that... but I think we used a sponge. :clonk:Lol go for the marble look!

I had to replace the bed on my S-10 pup daily driver.The replacement bed came from a junkyard, with surface rust on the bottom.A quick sandblast and two coats of rustoleum.Still looks ok.going on six years

I think I am going to try this method on my 51 pickup. Back then, the paint was single stage and not too glossy (farm and work trucks! :)) I think this will look perfect for it! It will take me forever to get to it though :D

You dont need a paint booth, fresh air suit or even worry about overspray with laquer and your skills dont need to be that great since you basically wetsand it flat and polish it up to a mirror finish anyway. And it was designed for automobiles, not patio chairs like rustoleum. But whatever works for you i guess.

dp

I can't believe there's 4 pages of this nonsense.

If you adjust the amount of post visable per page........you can only make it two.

No time right now, I'm going to paint my car with a mop....:clonk: