: Front Brake Upgrade That Won't Break The Bank?
jogasz28 Mar 4th, 07, 12:30 PM Now that we've got the '69's subframe completely tore apart, I got a chance today to look at the front brakes while tearing one side apart. Most everything, including all the brake hardware, and the driver side brake hub (busted stud hole) needs replaced.
Our budget (Ha Ha!, Dad's spending money) does not allow for a serious upgrade. But I will have to spend a certain amount even to replace these original drum brakes.
Is there another setup we could run? Like disc brakes from another type/year car that would fit a '69, and also not cost big bucks?
This will be a driver and I'd feel better with disc brakes anyways.
HwyStarJoe Mar 4th, 07, 01:04 PM You can put disc brakes on the front with 90% over-the-counter parts.... totalling about $400.
You'll need caliper brackets from one of the aftermarket suppliers.... the rest comes from the auto parts store.
The drum spindles need to be modified to accept the caliper brackets and you're all set.
Then you can sell some of the drum brake odds and ends to recoup some of the money.
dale68z Mar 4th, 07, 01:16 PM 70-72 monte carlo, mid size gm, can be adapted, direct bolt on, except for the steering arm. Dave Pozzi has a site that has all the vehicles that can be used as doners. I just bought the whole thing, 300 clams, master cylinder booster, and everything attached to the spindle.
Dale
jogasz28 Mar 4th, 07, 02:56 PM You can put disc brakes on the front with 90% over-the-counter parts.... totalling about $400.
You'll need caliper brackets from one of the aftermarket suppliers.... the rest comes from the auto parts store.
The drum spindles need to be modified to accept the caliper brackets and you're all set.
Then you can sell some of the drum brake odds and ends to recoup some of the money.
Thanks for the reply.
Sounds good and affordable.
What year/make/model would I use?
onovakind67 Mar 4th, 07, 03:34 PM A thread that may interest you:
Low-Budget: 4-wheel drums to 4-wheel discs for ~$800!
http://www.chevelles.com/forums/showthread.php?t=115940
JimM Mar 4th, 07, 05:14 PM Thanks for the reply.
Sounds good and affordable.
What year/make/model would I use?
Safest bet would be 69 Camaro. They used the single piston 11" disks on the same spinlde
eville Mar 4th, 07, 06:36 PM Thanks for the reply.
Sounds good and affordable.
What year/make/model would I use?
I used 72 chevelle. Get everything you can from a junk yard. Use all but the steering arms, yours will bolt on.
You'll want: spindles, mounting brackets, backing plates, calipers, rotors, master cylinder, booster too. Get new pads and rubber lines for sure. Calipers and rotors are up to you. I got new rotors, new bearings and races, rebuilt the calipers. Cheap and it stops great.
novaderrik Mar 4th, 07, 10:15 PM if the wheels will clear it, you can upgrade to C4 Corvette brakes with PBR calipers for about $500.
jogasz28 Mar 5th, 07, 05:59 PM I found this kit at Summit:
http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail.asp?autofilter=1&part=SUM%2DBK1000&N=700+115&autoview=sku
$449 for all new parts is interesting. The kit requires 15" wheels. Are the front tires on a '69 15"? I was looking in the Chassis Service Manual but it does not specifically state that they are 15".
rays68camaro Mar 5th, 07, 06:20 PM Just receive my brake parts from Tomsclassic off of Ebay . For $475.00 you get all the brake parts.
ALL PARTS ARE NEW NO REMANUFACTURED PARTS HERE COMES COMPLETE WITH EVERYTHING IN THE PICTURES INCLUDING BOOSTER MASTER / PROPORTIONING VALVE AND THE FRONT BRAKE LINE CONVERSION .AND ALSO FOR A LIMITED TIME WE ARE ADDING DRILLED AND SLOTTED ROTORS AT NO CHARGE .THESE ARE EXCELLANT REPRODUCTIONS OF THE ORIGINAL 1969 GM DISC BRAKE COMPONENTS SO REPLACEMENT PARTS ARE AS CLOSE AS THE NEAREST AUTO PARTS STORE.
Nice kit for the price .
Heres the link for one that was just sold
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=016&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&viewitem=&item=260089162497&rd=1,1
Later Ray
Larry B Mar 5th, 07, 07:23 PM Hear one place to check out http://www.speedwaymotors.com/p/4624,351_1964-1972-GM-A-Body-Disc-Brake-Kit.html
Larry
Larry B Mar 5th, 07, 07:29 PM cool...........Ray nice price for Tomsclassic off of Ebay
Larry
jogasz28 Mar 6th, 07, 04:08 PM I saw this kit from our own Bel-Aire Bob:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1967-1969-Camaro-Disc-Brake-Conversion-Kit-POWER-Disc_W0QQitemZ110097489227QQihZ001QQcategoryZ34199 QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem#ebayphotohosting
jogasz28 Mar 8th, 07, 04:33 PM I saw this kit while surfing Ebay.
Does anyone know of a problem with a kit like this?
Besides not being OEM?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=110097579707&fromMakeTrack=true
TIA,
Mat Klemp Mar 8th, 07, 06:52 PM The E-Bay kit does not include a master cyl or booster. Bel Air Bob's does. summit does not. Toms Classics looks like it also includes the front tubes. none seem to have the front hose bracket, which is different than drums
I HIGHLY RECOMMEND FRONT DISC BRAKES. Just make sure what you buy is what you need. you may want to ask them about the brackets and lines.
TTFN
Mat
fireeater Mar 8th, 07, 07:19 PM That E-bay kits has extras that you can include. Looking at doing mine for awhile and had them as a "favorite".
jogasz28 Mar 9th, 07, 05:37 PM The E-Bay kit does not include a master cyl or booster. Bel Air Bob's does. summit does not. Toms Classics looks like it also includes the front tubes. none seem to have the front hose bracket, which is different than drums
I HIGHLY RECOMMEND FRONT DISC BRAKES. Just make sure what you buy is what you need. you may want to ask them about the brackets and lines.
TTFN
Mat
I am doing a lot of reading now to find out exactly what I do need.
So far I know I don't want 17" wheels, so the C5 caliper upgrade may be out (still waiting for a return call on that).
I also know in my case buying pieces one at a time, instead of a kit may be the way I have to go budget-wise. So I may end up buying non-NOS parts to end up with '69 disc brakes.
Questions: Are the single-piston calipers worth upgrading to from drum
brakes?
Are manual front disc/rear drum brakes an improvement over all
drums?
d's 68 Mar 9th, 07, 05:41 PM Definantly yes!
bryce Mar 13th, 07, 08:59 PM converting from drum all 4 wheels to dics in the front, what would i use to replace the factory proportioning valve to use with the new discs
eville Mar 13th, 07, 11:14 PM you can use the search feature to get a lot more info than this, but...
the "splitter" under the m/c is not a proportioning valve. If you have a residual pressure valve, it would be in the main rear line under the driver side frame rail. If you just have the "splitter" under the master, you can use it regardless of your brake setup.
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