View Full Version : Why are people on other sites so contentious?


MikeC68
Mar 26th, 07, 10:19 PM
When I stumbled onto this site last year it was the best thing I ever did. The advice I have received has been so helpful and everyone is so nice, even when I post 'stupid' questions!!! Recently, I have embarked on a new project and have looked into similar forums specific for that restoration. What I have found however, is that the posts can get confrontational, and you kind of get the feeling that unless you are really knowledgeable, that you are going to get slammed. But if you knew everything then why would you need to ask the question? I guess I just assumed everyone was as nice as they are here.
Mike

Pacecarjeff
Mar 26th, 07, 10:24 PM
From what I remember...
Camaro means "friend" in spanish, or french, or something like that. :)

wagonman
Mar 26th, 07, 10:59 PM
yeah this is a good frendly site......

so if you wanna rumble we will have to meet on a corner somewhere!!!!!!

lol kidding.....

mbmmca
Mar 27th, 07, 04:58 AM
Hey Mike, I think it happens (for the most part anyway) because there are so many different opinions on how to do things and everyone thinks theirs is right. Unfortunately people think that there is only one way to do stuff and aren't willing to look at other options. Doesn't happen much here....

Everett#2390
Mar 27th, 07, 05:05 AM
Maybe because we are mature adults here and like to mentor.
There are other sites? I can't imagine......oops, I'm starting to digress....

MikeC68
Mar 27th, 07, 08:41 AM
I certainly see how people can have different opinions and that is how a discussion gets going. Thats all good. Its just when they start taking shots at one another, seems less than productive. I guess we have to realize there are different, viable ways of doing things. Maybe I should trade in my latest for another camaro, and just keep it all here!
Mike

Codi
Mar 27th, 07, 10:25 AM
We also have "janitors" and "bouncers" that keep the site clean and reasonable. I like a healthy discussion every now and then, but no need for name calling and such. Besides, if you have a Camaro, what else is there?

JimM
Mar 27th, 07, 10:32 AM
We also have "janitors" and "bouncers" that keep the site clean and reasonable. I like a healthy discussion every now and then, but no need for name calling and such. Besides, if you have a Camaro, what else is there?
Ya, I think us mods can take credit for it, lol!

Seriously tho, it is our policy that people on this site will behave in an adult manner toward eachother. People either learn to get along, or they find they don't like it here and they leave.

Vintage 68
Mar 27th, 07, 11:12 AM
I agree Mike, about 98.(something)% of the responses - even to some poorly worded and hard to understand questions - are still taken seriously and answered as indepth and professional as possible.
There are a few that, no matter how hard you try to answer, head off on a wierd tangent and just go wrong (right "Tony" ;) )...
I just put those on my 'ignore' list and never respond to those again.

We are all just here to learn and exchange info.
I personally learn something dang near every time I log on to the site :thumbsup:

I also belong to several other sites for specific makes/models, few are near as helpfull as this one.
Only by pre-researching the subject I need info on though available reference materials, reading all the other info I can find through searches of past posts to that site and 'goolgleing' the subject beforehand - can I bring myself to start a new post on that site and hope for a decent answer without getting flamed or worse. This process often frustrates me to the point I don't post ...
I seldom see the same reaction or response to those type of posts on this site - seems that no matter how many times the same simple question gets posted, it gets answered very courteously.

My thanks to the Admin.'s for also stepping in from time to time to keep things on a nice course :thumbsup:
You guys really earn your money at times :D ( oh, 'checks in the mail' ... ;) )

Glad to be a member of this 'team';
John

67-427
Mar 27th, 07, 03:48 PM
Your right about some of the other sites, my wife belongs to the corvette forum, asks a question now and then, mostly listens, But for a bunch of guy who are all about the numbers, they donn't share their knowledge anywhere near as freely as the guys do here. We've had our corvette, It's a 59 and my wifes love it, me I think it rides like a buckboard, for 20 years, and It's JUST A CAR, these guys can go overboard with the numbers thing, She ask a questions and 49 people have looked at it since yesterday and not 1 person could answer her question. Which was how do you tell a reproduction air cleaner from an original for 59. I told her they probably all put it on their watch list to bid on! Nope give me a camaro or a chevelle anyday! And the down to earth guys that go with them.

ray moore
Mar 27th, 07, 03:54 PM
Hi Mike

I have to agree, I've checked out other sites and there are NO other sites where the amount of knowledge and the willingness to help are anywhere close to this one. I try to be (like John has stated) fairly diligent in my research before I will post for an answer here. Although with that said I am guilty of posting some pretty dumb questions sometimes. I usually just admit I'm an idiot up front and then ask my question.
I've been a member for a few years now after starting with no knowledge of how to restore my car. Now after fighting through my interrior, suspension,bodywork,(soon to be paint projects) and maybe a 1000 posts I am finally at a point where I can start giving back some help by answering some, not many, but some questions.
I feel like we are more like a club than a forum. I feel like I know a lot of the members through their posts ( questions and answers) over the years. I love it when I find someone asking a question that I know the answer for. Many times I'll read someone needs a picture of something and I'll grab the camera and head to the garage to try and get one for them.
That I believe is how most of the members are here. Remember the name of the site is TEAM camaro.

Thanks
Ray

South Side Goons & Hitmen
Mar 27th, 07, 04:53 PM
This site is GREAT!!! Like Ray said, it is TEAM Camaro!! There are no stupid questions. We are just here to help. Trust me there are plenty of guys & some gals too on this site who have saved my @$$ a time or two or three or four when it comes to working on the Camaro I own now. To that I say THANK YOU!!!

wiskeesour
Mar 27th, 07, 05:02 PM
This site is only better cuz Im here. NO ONE KNOWS MORE THAN ME.



sorry had to say that, LMAO.

wagonman
Mar 27th, 07, 05:54 PM
hey wait!!!!! i know the most..... so there....... thats that!!!!!!

South Side Goons & Hitmen
Mar 27th, 07, 06:18 PM
I'm the big ugly Goon like bouncer with the South Side (Chicago) attitude. Youze got a problim wit dat? Nah I didnt tink so! Wait one of youze does, well let me introduce youze guys to my friends ohva dehr, da hitmen. Yea dats one of da hitmen. Yea, da guy wit da long trench coat and da ugly mug. Oh oh, he's comin' yor way.

MikeC68
Mar 27th, 07, 06:27 PM
Everyone has basically summed up my feelings. Well, I guess all I can say is that I am just happy that we have this place to talk about, and exchange advice on, the cars we all love.
BTW what does the term "cobbed up" mean. I see it at some other sites quite a bit and usually in the context of a disagreement. I assume its not a positive term, and I apologize in advance if it is an offensive term...just don't know what it means.
Thanks,
Mike

67-427
Mar 27th, 07, 06:40 PM
Cobbed up means taking a bunch of "stuff" and make it work on something that it wasn't intented for in the first place. Kinda like my latest project, my 8,500.00 bargin that I refer to as a "mutt. It has the wrong trim on the windows, cause that's what the first guy liked,it has a 67 console, because that's all the guy had. It's got SS emblems on it, cause that's what the guy liked. He put on new rear quarters and never cut and put in the side markers, cause that's what he liked! He kinda just "cobbed" together a bunch of "stuff" to make what he liked or could afford. I kinda like my "coobed" together car, I took out the turbo 350 and put in a 4 speed and know she's my "Cobbed" up make me smile car!:yes: :yes:

thedugan
Mar 27th, 07, 06:59 PM
The word Camaro in french means "friend" while the word camero in spanish means "shrimp".

MikeC68
Mar 27th, 07, 07:38 PM
I guess then that my 68 "shrimp" could be considered "cobbed up" also, at least to some extent. Early in the game I decided I would put sidepipes on it. Its about the only thing thats not really supposed to be there. I think it looks pretty cool, though its tough on ground clearance. Not sure if I'll keep them, but I thought I'd drive it this summer as is to see if I really like them. At least I havent burned my ankles getting out yet. I think you go with what you like.
mike

WildBillyT
Mar 27th, 07, 07:38 PM
In my opinion:

1.) The mods and admins do their job very well
2.) This is a pretty mature audience (not just talking about age)
3.) As a group we tend to weed out the jerks collectively

dreamweaver
Mar 27th, 07, 08:45 PM
WHAT? THERE ARE OTHER SITES? I HAVE BEEN DECEIVED!!!

I can only agree wholeheartedly with everything said above. It's actually because of this site that I even got involved with cars AT ALL. At 47 years old (last year) I stumbled across this site by pure accident. I didn't even know automobile forums existed, because I never had an interest in cars... at all. I started reading through the posts and I got hooked... not just on Camaros, but on the "feel and flavor" of the people on this website. I felt like I had found some long lost relatives or something, and I just wanted to be part of it. Before I came across this site:


I had never owned a "classic" car, let alone a Camaro
I never knew the ANYTHING about cars... and I mean ANYTHING --- (I still don't know much, but I know more than I did)
Other than business associates and a few close friends I didn't really converse, either online or otherwise, with very many people... just too busy with busywork.I have met, in person, some of the best people I have ever met through this website. And I have developed friendships with many that I believe will last a lifetime. My ignorance and lack of experience has been overlooked and, with a little jabbing in good fun, my elementary questions and quest for knowledge has been met with open arms. My hat's off to the Mod's, Al, and all those who participate to make this what it is... the happiest place on the net.

P.S. - Can someone tell me where to pick up that spark plug wax? I STILL cantt find it at any of the local stores :(

WildBillyT
Mar 27th, 07, 08:54 PM
P.S. - Can someone tell me where to pick up that spark plug wax? I STILL cantt find it at any of the local stores :(

It's in the electrical aisle, between the Anza brushes and the Kheneutsen valves.

Edit: Unless, of course, you are serious- in which case it's called dielectric grease and your parts counter guy should be able to point you in the right direction.

Vintage 68
Mar 28th, 07, 09:37 AM
... the Kheneutsen valves ...


Hahahahaha - he misspelled "Knudsen" ...
I bet he did that on purpose and was just trying to have you make a fool out of yourself at the parts counter - the guy would be looking those up in the computer for days with that spelling :D
You 'ol kidder 'Wildbilly' ;)
We don't want Steve to have a harder time trying to find that wax than he is already ...

btw - does anyone know a good source of 'con-rod glue' ???


j/k Billy ...

WildBillyT
Mar 28th, 07, 10:52 AM
Hahahahaha - he misspelled "Knudsen" ...
I bet he did that on purpose and was just trying to have you make a fool out of yourself at the parts counter - the guy would be looking those up in the computer for days with that spelling :D
You 'ol kidder 'Wildbilly' ;)
We don't want Steve to have a harder time trying to find that wax than he is already ...

btw - does anyone know a good source of 'con-rod glue' ???


j/k Billy ...


Ah, I forgot. On the west coast they are Knudsen valves because they need to be C.A.R.B certified. Silly me, I won't forget that again.

77thor
Mar 28th, 07, 11:05 AM
Welcome.
Yes, people here are friendly and knowledgable.

Another good site like this one is www.nastyz28.com/forum
it is slanted more towards Second Generation Camaros (1970-81)

Fred

Vintage 68
Mar 28th, 07, 11:12 AM
...On the west coast ... they need to be C.A.R.B certified ...

Low Carb or CARB certified - either one seems to be mandatory out here ... :D

Steptoe
Mar 28th, 07, 02:36 PM
The guys here do not treat anything as a Stupid question...Every such question one of use has had a problem like it at some time...
Most of use have been around Camaros for a long time...20, 30, 40 yrs...been there done that, made that mistake

Yep we have had ppl here (rarely) that have an attitude...they dont last long.
Too many of us thu have differening opinions, also give the reasons why, logic, and are prepared to listen, even modify there own..its called maturity.
The mods are good to...very professional attitudes. Attitudes reflect from the top.

And things happen here...
2 examples
I was after a steering column and being in NZ not easy...was pionted in the right direction, after phone calls between TX Kentucy, UK, Aussie, these put me onto a guy about 1hr drive way...problem solved..
I have been trying to source Slick 50 for some yrs now...a guy in the States put me onto a guy in another small town in NZ...problem solved.

The guys here really do 'go the extra mile'

dreamweaver
Mar 28th, 07, 05:08 PM
.....I bet he did that on purpose and was just trying to have you make a fool out of yourself at the parts counter ...

Me? Make a fool out of myself at the parts counter? NEVER! But, come to think of it, they do look at me kind of funny when I ask for it... I just assume that they haven't heard of it either.

This website recommends candle wax, but I am looking for the better, "correct" wax: (It's from Prentice Hall's Automotive Tech pages)

http://www.prenhall.com/autoweb/techtips/engine.html

The wax trick
Before the engine block can be thoroughly cleaned, all oil gallery plugs must be removed. A popular trick of the trade involves heating the plug (not the surrounding metal) with an oxyacetylene torch. The heat tends to expand the plug and make it tighter in the block. Do not overheat. As the plug is cooling, touch the plug with paraffin wax (beeswax or candle wax may be used). The wax will be drawn down around the threads of the plug by capillary attraction as the plug cools and contracts. After being allowed to cool, the plug is easily removed.

RamAirDave
Mar 28th, 07, 05:37 PM
That trick is for oil galley and/or coolant passage plugs.

Totally different than spark plug wax. If you use parrafin wax on your spark plugs, the engine will blow up within seconds.

ss dave
Mar 29th, 07, 09:30 AM
I have found that most sites are helpful and friendly, but you have to have a "feel" for that particular site. Some sites have been around for some time and have been asked a particular question thousands of times, so when a newbe asks the same question he gets hammered. I have found that by following a site for several days to weeks you can get a feel for the language, terms and specifics for posting on that site. Do a search prior to posting a question- it may save you time, embarssment and hassles. By following a site you will know the "experts" from the "excerts". Personnally I like LS1tech.com, Lateral-G.net and Pro-touring.com for a lot of info. All have helped tremendously in my 69 vert LS7 project.