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softail02 Mar 30th, 07, 04:17 PM OK my new TT2's the rims are 9.5 with 5.5 back space (i am going downstairs to remeasure) I hade slapper bars on the car now I switch over to shock plates with 2'' lowering blocks and thought every thing was good then I walked in the hause today and looked at the rims and saw the lower part of the shocks and plates sittin on the rim? Wht is this happen I read with 9.5 rims I needed 5.5 rims.
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HELP BEFORE I JUMP OFF A BRIDGE
trex70 Mar 30th, 07, 04:49 PM I ran into the sme problem trying to use 2" block. I had to use 1" block and it still looks good. I am going to order DSE 2" drop springs. I use the same rims and size tires as you. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news>
DjD Mar 30th, 07, 05:13 PM First I think the block is too big and it looks to me like you have the wrong shocks for the multi-leaf shock plate. My shocks have a stud that is built into and through the bottom eye that is flush with the eye on the wheel side, nothing protudes out towards the wheel.
Everett#2390 Mar 30th, 07, 05:14 PM Two choices, I see:
1. Shorten the lowering block by half the thickness
2. Add a spacer between the wheel and axle flange.
I vote for #1.
softail02 Mar 30th, 07, 05:18 PM Rex some times bad news is what i need to hear, it figures since I loved the look of the 2 inch blocks. I was wondering if I could heat and bend up where the shocks mount so they are sticking up
softail02 Mar 30th, 07, 05:21 PM What worries me is when the spring begin to sag over time even if I have 2 inches the spring plate on the bottom will hit the rim.
Everett#2390 Mar 30th, 07, 05:24 PM No, shock plate and wheel are connected to each other. If spring sags, shock will never hit wheel if you have a shorter block.
Shock plate is bolted to axle, wheel is bolted to it. The distance will never change unless, God forbid, the axle flange breaks.
softail02 Mar 30th, 07, 05:34 PM Then I dont understand why it didnt hit when I put them on it seems that after a few days the spring settled a little is when they started hitting.. Thank all for the help.
Everett#2390 Mar 30th, 07, 06:38 PM How much clearance then?
DjD Mar 30th, 07, 07:09 PM The sag, if you are experiencing some is most likely from the rear shackles settling in after installing the blocks. Your springs have a certain arch and if you didn't remove them when you installed the blocks the shackles started out where they were before the blocks. The blocks changed the arch of teh spring. The spring as it tries to find it's natural arch for your load slowly moved the shackle lowering the car some.
Loosen the shackles (both upper and lower) and try a 1 1/2" block. Set the car back on it's wheels and then tighten the shackles.
pdq67 Mar 30th, 07, 07:13 PM A '67 car use's a through bolt!
A '68 and '69 use a stud!!
My 17" x 5.25" or so allow my '67 stuff to tuck inside, otherwise you need a 3.75" B/S for a 14" rim!!
Hope this helps??
pdq67
DjD Mar 30th, 07, 07:13 PM I should have added with those 255's if you run a 1/4" wheel spacer you might not have to to trim the fender lip with the car sitting still or driving in a straight line but corners and driveways at an angle to avoid scraping may cause some tire rub. If you have drums in the back it will be less of a problem.
softail02 Mar 30th, 07, 07:13 PM :thumbsup: Thanks guys, I am going to cut them on a band saw tomarrow 1 1/2....
softail02 Apr 1st, 07, 05:41 PM First I think the block is too big and it looks to me like you have the wrong shocks for the multi-leaf shock plate. My shocks have a stud that is built into and through the bottom eye that is flush with the eye on the wheel side, nothing protudes out towards the wheel.
I cut them down 1/2 inch and still have the problem If my shock was mounted without that little spacer I would be cool. Does anyone have some pic's of the proper shock on and off the mount. Thank you
You had to gain something removing a half inch... The spacer is required but not the nut and bolt head.
Here's a multi-leaf Koni... http://www.camaros.net/pnwcc/DjD/IMG_1239_a.JPG
Here's 2 more I ran out and snapped, hope it helps...
http://www.camaros.net/pnwcc/DjD/PICT2881_a.JPG
http://www.camaros.net/pnwcc/DjD/PICT2879_a.JPG
softail02 Apr 1st, 07, 07:28 PM Thank you.... I think I will need to go with 1 inch blocks because even with that correct setup I can tell they will still hit.... Thank you for the Pics that helps me a lot
bcvet Apr 2nd, 07, 09:30 AM Can you Drill a new shock bolt hole up higher
jigga99 Apr 2nd, 07, 04:08 PM this should work
http://www.detroitspeed.com/productpages/indproduct/rearsuspensionprod/lower_shock_plates_prod_test.htm
pro tc Apr 4th, 07, 10:14 PM if you want a good solid 1 inch block get one from dick guldstrand.
not cheep though
barry
http://www.guldstrand.com/
Joe Harrison Apr 4th, 07, 11:24 PM Pics, specs on wheels tire combo on rear and front please!! What year camaro? I am wanting to see your set up because I want 17x9.5 wheels with 5.5 back space in the rear also.
Thanks
Joe
pro tc Apr 5th, 07, 09:04 PM joe is it my setup you want info on
barry
blue69camaro Apr 5th, 07, 09:30 PM I made custom tab for my shocks, If you have access to a welder and a couple of pieces of flat stock you can locate them where you want and keep your 2" spacers, A little work but in the long run you might be happier.
tgifford5 Apr 6th, 07, 09:10 AM A '67 car use's a through bolt!
A '68 and '69 use a stud!!
My 17" x 5.25" or so allow my '67 stuff to tuck inside, otherwise you need a 3.75" B/S for a 14" rim!!
Hope this helps??
pdq67
Doesn't that depend on whether it is a mono or multi leaf set up? Because my 69 I have a through bolt for the lower shock, but mine is a mono leaf set up.
Doesn't that depend on whether it is a mono or multi leaf set up? Because my 69 I have a through bolt for the lower shock, but mine is a mono leaf set up.
my understanding too, it's a mono vs multi thing at least in '69...
Joe Harrison Apr 6th, 07, 09:30 AM I have to wonder if the backspace is correct? Do the TTO's have a larger lip? Touring classics says TTO's will not work with their brakes unless you used the hybrid setup? Something about not being a true 17 inch wheel and the wheel inside diameter being brought down to a 16 inch size? OD of the wheel is 17 of course but the center is a 16 inch as I understand. Could this step down be the issue combined with the back space? I am not sure if I have seen 17x9.5 with 5.5 TTO's used? I am no expert just an opinion. Are you near some place or some one with the same size and back space tire/wheel combo you can test fit to make sure? Or measure ID of rim where the shock is hitting and compair to others with 17 inch wheels of differnt makes.
Joe
softail02 Apr 7th, 07, 05:25 PM Can you Drill a new shock bolt hole up higher
I might try that
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