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PROZ11
Apr 27th, 07, 08:38 AM
Only $62,000 with "no docs" and "original engine and trans long gone." Not a complete car. "All the hard work done. Finish it the way you want."

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Chevrolet-Camaro-Z-28-1967-z-28-Chevrolet-Camaro-super-rare-1-of-602-built_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ6161QQihZ003QQite mZ130105018784QQrdZ1

bmaudlin
Apr 27th, 07, 08:56 AM
Where's the link??

PROZ11
Apr 27th, 07, 09:07 AM
Ooops, added the link in the original post, sorry about that.

Jonesy
Apr 27th, 07, 09:19 AM
Do you have a problem with the price? How many 67 z/28's do you see for sale every day? Not many 67 z/28 have their original engines, trans or documents. If this is in MacNeish's registry it's worth it. Try to find them.

PROZ11
Apr 27th, 07, 09:39 AM
Sorry, didn't know I was going to upset anyone. I just thought I'd post it after I saw the listing. I don't have that kind of money. But, apparently no one who does have it and knows what a 67 Z/28 is worth thinks it's worth the price either. No one bought it, but there is one offer. Another thing I don't understand is why someone would put a bunch of repop body parts on a car that is "worth" that much. They'd probably be better off selling it with out them. If some one had the money and was going restore the car to its original form they would most likely not want all the repop sheet metal. If they weren't going for originality, they wouldn't pay 62K.

BelAirBob
Apr 27th, 07, 09:59 AM
Agreed... for $62K the car should have NOS quarters,etc.- whichever parts are still available.

DjD
Apr 27th, 07, 10:24 AM
I'm going to chime in here... First the auction isn't over for several days and it only takes one offer to sell something. Second ebay isn't the best place to sell a car like this so most likely the auction is more of an advertisment, set the reserve or BIN high to insure there is no ebay transaction.

As for not using NOS parts on the car, I don't think it says one way or the other in the auction. I read "new quarter panels", "new door shells and fenders", did I miss something? Maybe someone asked the seller and found out it wasn't NOS parts.

If the car has a potential market value of $150K and all you have to do is put it together, restore the interior and paint it what is it worth?

italiano362
Apr 27th, 07, 10:30 AM
The original motor and trans are long gone. Yes he has another 302 but it isnt factory correct from that car. Justpointing that out.

77thor
Apr 27th, 07, 10:36 AM
To me... it's not worth that much
IMO

Hylton
Apr 27th, 07, 11:14 AM
People are free to price their cars wherever they want. I have a 1999 Ford Windstar for sale at $37,000 if you are interested.

ChevyThunder
Apr 27th, 07, 12:03 PM
People are free to price their cars wherever they want. I have a 1999 Ford Windstar for sale at $37,000 if you are interested.

I'll take it.... how about a yellow yellow Z for partial ?

W.A.C
Apr 27th, 07, 12:20 PM
Wow, I am not the Z28 authority. But that seems silly high to me for a car without the original motor etc...
I like that... "All the hard work is done".....LOL!

Hylton
Apr 27th, 07, 12:47 PM
People are free to price their cars wherever they want. I have a 1999 Ford Windstar for sale at $37,000 if you are interested.

I'll take it.... how about a yellow yellow Z for partial ?

No way! You'll have to sweeten the offer.

DjD
Apr 27th, 07, 12:56 PM
Wow, I am not the Z28 authority. But that seems silly high to me for a car without the original motor etc...
I like that... "All the hard work is done".....LOL!

Most of the high dollar ZL1's don't have the orig drive trains in them yet they retain their hugh dollar value. A well done '69 Z/28 that doesn't have it's birth engine under the hood can bring $60k and there were over 20,000 of them produced. Compare that to only 602 '67 Z/28's built...

I would never spend $100k + on a play toy or transportation because I can't afford it but if I had millions it would be a no brainer, I'd have a very nice collection to play with...

bdzee
Apr 27th, 07, 03:21 PM
That cowl tag looks awful fresh to me and I'm not talking about the paint being stripped off of it either. Sure is CRISP.

W.A.C
Apr 27th, 07, 03:38 PM
[quote=DjD;772510]Most of the high dollar ZL1's don't have the orig drive trains in them yet they retain their hugh dollar value. A well done '69 Z/28 that doesn't have it's birth engine under the hood can bring $60k and there were over 20,000 of them produced. Compare that to only 602 '67 Z/28's built...


You are 100% correct!
But come on, 62k for that thing? You have to ask...What kind of 68-69 Z28 that is a "whole car" could you buy for 62k? (at least it would be matching #'s) Think what it would cost to get that thing to prestine condition? But guess what, you would still have over a 100k in a car without the original motor. Yikes! I know there are plenty of rare cars out there that have some sort of issues. But for my $, it better have what its suppose to have, especially the darn motor......
:beers:

Dayton68Z28
Apr 27th, 07, 04:06 PM
It's all about taking a chance on what the collector car market will do over the next several years. Believe you me, somewhere out there is a babyboomer that just inherited a boat load of $$$$$. He's thinking, "Hmmmmmm......I could pick this up and have someone restore it. I could then take it to BJ and sell it hopefully for more than I have in it. Even if I sell at a loss, I will still have a fun time(and a reason) to go to BJ".

MichiganMan
Apr 27th, 07, 04:42 PM
Most of the high dollar ZL1's don't have the orig drive trains in them yet they retain their hugh dollar value. A well done '69 Z/28 that doesn't have it's birth engine under the hood can bring $60k and there were over 20,000 of them produced. Compare that to only 602 '67 Z/28's built...

I would never spend $100k + on a play toy or transportation because I can't afford it but if I had millions it would be a no brainer, I'd have a very nice collection to play with...

I know a guy here in michigan that has 1 of those 602 67 z28's. He has raced it at many local tracks since as far back as the early 1970's .Not much original left in the car it has tubs & slicks, interior was pretty much gutted years ago. I ran into to him at a car show last summer. that car still looks fantastic as far as body goes, definetly the fastest car in my home town to this day

Zedder
Apr 27th, 07, 05:08 PM
The car is real, the tag is real and I have known of the car and the owner since 2000. If you read his ad, he copied most of the text from the '67 Z project car that I just sold for $60K on ebay. The sheetmetal is all repop on the car and that really hurts the value in my mind. Also, it's green and low options which again hurts it. So if my black, loaded car with original panels except NOS quarters was worth $60K and I struggled to get that...I wouldn't pay $45K for this car personally. The market is soft boys and cars without original drivetrains and paperwork are taking a huge hit compared to the summer of '05 when everything was on fire. Just look at all of the cars that are sitting for sale or have been listed over and over again on ebay and other sites like this. Frankly, I'm glad because it will put more cars in the hands of those who will drive them again. Few will drive a $100K+ car to a cruise night and leave it to walk around and shoot the breeze with other collectors. I think that one more summer will bring things back to more reasonable levels. Just my opinion, so don't flame me too badly :D :p

ragtop69
Apr 27th, 07, 05:26 PM
Zedder i agree .i wonder what will happen to the market when the new camaros come out? no flames here.

Zedder
Apr 27th, 07, 05:56 PM
I think it will give us another option for a fun cruiser that has all of the modern conveniences. I will consider buying one if they look like the concept cars and use it for family outings or to drive to work on Fridays etc. Modern conveniences and safety features are definitely desirable to me, but the new car won't replace my love of our old metal. However, I would never drive a classic for an hour in rush hour traffic around Toronto to take it to work! I think this too will soften demand somewhat, but not to a real great extent.