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: how much hardner needed...


rolling-robert
May 3rd, 03, 07:34 AM
just wondering, how much hardener do i have to add to the paint?

it's STANDOX paint, 2 components.

i do have somesort of manual on the can, but i dont understand it really.

i know it depends on what brand paint im using.

but i just need a guideline.

so how much 25%? 40%? 80%?

many thanks for all the help guys

[ 05-03-2003, 12:46 PM: Message edited by: rolling-robert ]

MARTINSR
May 3rd, 03, 09:11 AM
You REALLY need to us the instructions on the can or tech sheet.

What exactly does it say? It should have some kind of mixing ratio like 3:1:1 or something like that. Sometimes they have a little graph with these numbers next to it. Tell us what that is and then we can tell you what it means.

rolling-robert
May 3rd, 03, 09:45 AM
it has a little drawing on it

u see 2 cans next to eachother, the left one is bigger then the right one

in the left one it says "2" the right one a "1"

so i quess it means 2:1 :D

MARTINSR
May 3rd, 03, 12:23 PM
Usually what they show is two or three "cans" (depending on how many componants are used) that are all equal sized. What is different is the amount of "stuff" in each "can". But I guess 2:1 is it. Is there a way you could scan and post this label?

I don't know of anyone on the forum here that shoots Standox. But just in case tell us exactly what this paint is called.

rolling-robert
May 3rd, 03, 09:24 PM
so 2:1 means 1 litre of paint and a 1/2 litre of hardener, right?

BBCamaro
May 4th, 03, 12:47 AM
Yes it does, 1 litre to 1/2 litre or whatever amount you go with paint, 1/2 have will be hardner or catalyst, let us know about what series of paint you are working with
jake

Toby Keen
May 4th, 03, 12:49 AM
Your paint supplier should have a tech sheet for the material you are using which will spell out the exact amounts of each material. They should also have a mixing jug that has the levels marked for 2.1.1, 4.2.1 6.2.1 and so on. If the directions aren't followed, chances are you won't be happy with the results.

rolling-robert
May 4th, 03, 07:24 AM
ok,
here it is: HARDNER standox ms 5-15
paint: STANDOCRYL autolack topcoat.

it also has a number on it but i think its just a color-code (black)

i painted a piece of metal with 2:1, 2 days ago and its still not quite hardened.

If i press my nail in it i leave a scratch. :mad:

rolling-robert
May 4th, 03, 06:57 PM
i cant find any more info

Toby Keen
May 4th, 03, 11:18 PM
Can you contact the manufacturer? They should be able to fax you the tech sheet on the material you're using.

rolling-robert
May 5th, 03, 05:50 AM
ooh well, i just paint the car with 2:1 and ill wait until its fully hardened before i polish and wetsand it.

ill see how long it takes

68RSZEE
May 6th, 03, 02:51 AM
If you don't have a marked mixing stick you can use a metal ruler. Stick it in your paint cup and pour your paint up to the 2" mark and then add your hardener by pouring up to the 3" mark. There you have 2:1 ratio.
Roger

rolling-robert
May 6th, 03, 06:10 AM
thanks!

KWIK 69
May 8th, 03, 07:24 AM
Speaking of marked mixing sticks, I just picked up a metal one made by Sikkens and I'm not positive how to read it. graemlins/clonk.gif
It has 3 columns of equally spaced gradations, all columns being of different ummm... volumes, I guess? I don't have it in front of me at the moment, but one column has a heading of 30, one says 50 and one has 100 at the top. I assume those are for quantity?
Are the seperate columns related when mixing additives, or do you just stick to reading the gradations on one column, depending on volume?

(You know you're a noobie when you can't even read the friggin' paint stick!) http://www.handykult.de/plaudersmilies.de/yellows/ohwe.gif