I just received my grandfather's '67 plain jane and I was just curious as to what exactly I've got. If someone could decode these tags for me, it'd be greatly appreciated. And, is there anyway to tell if this is the original engine or not? Thanks.

The car:
http://img518.imageshack.us/img518/2126/68697516kl2.jpg

VIN:
http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/4927/12se7.jpg

Body tag (is that what it's called?):
http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/2222/13sq9.jpg

All of the codes I could find on the engine:
http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/8161/14bk4.jpg

http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/7371/15iv7.jpg

http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/7736/16mu7.jpg

http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/8792/17kx7.jpg

Going by the VIN it was assembled in Los Angeles and is a straight six.
The trim tag only tells you the original interior and exterior color since it has no options.
709-Z = Gold standard buckets
Y-Y = Butternut Yellow exterior

...you've got one rust free 40 year old car, that's for sure :thumbsup:

...There should be a machined surface on the engine block near the distributor base. Check what numbers are stamped there as well.
Your car was built '02B', ...('02'=2nd month, ...Feb ; 'B'= 2nd week) the 2nd week of Feb '67, ...so the stamped #'s on the engine would fall slightly before if it's the original motor.

And, is there anyway to tell if this is the original engine or not?

I looks like it could be, but like Kevin said, the engine code is stamped next to the distributor. This link should help you:
http://www.camaros.org/images/pages/decoding/1967-69_L6engine_stamp_location.jpg

Your car looks like it is a 3-speed stick on the column? Can you get the trans and axle codes also?
Look here to find out where to look:
http://www.camaros.org/drivetrain.shtml

Any original paper work on the car?

Wow thats one sweet lil 67 you got there ! I wouldnt touch it just leave it the way it is right now,,,,look as Daniel and Kevin said,, maybe its a TRUE survior 67 Camaro,,,,some dont think the 6 bangers are worth much but i say if its what came from the factory and still there ,,in time it will be worth a lot,, jmo Frank

That car looks very original, You could even have the build sheet under the tank. Make sure you know what a build sheet looks like before you start changing interior or droping the tank! I was so excited when I got my car I repaired the fuel gage the day I got the car later to find out I threw out a perfect condition build sheet that fell when removing my tank. I found this site about the same time I bought the car and was not familiar what it looked like. When I saw a picture of one on this site mths later I almost died. ya Im an Idiot DONT DO THE SAME! I have had a hard time sleeping ever since, I think about it every day, I cant help it. Its the only first gen I will every own and its NOT replaceable. Beleive me I have tried. And Im still trying just to know the history. Im such an idiot!

Everything on that motor tells me its original to the car. Very nice BTW!

Very nice original car.:thumbsup:

I looks like it could be, but like Kevin said, the engine code is stamped next to the distributor. This link should help you:
http://www.camaros.org/images/pages/decoding/1967-69_L6engine_stamp_location.jpg

Your car looks like it is a 3-speed stick on the column? Can you get the trans and axle codes also?
Look here to find out where to look:
http://www.camaros.org/drivetrain.shtml

Any original paper work on the car?
Thanks for the links. I'll look for all these codes this weekend.
I do have bundle of papers about the car that I need to go through. We'll see what they tell me.

That car looks very original, You could even have the build sheet under the tank. Make sure you know what a build sheet looks like before you start changing interior or droping the tank! I was so excited when I got my car I repaired the fuel gage the day I got the car later to find out I threw out a perfect condition build sheet that fell when removing my tank. I found this site about the same time I bought the car and was not familiar what it looked like. When I saw a picture of one on this site mths later I almost died. ya Im an Idiot DONT DO THE SAME! I have had a hard time sleeping ever since, I think about it every day, I cant help it. Its the only first gen I will every own and its NOT replaceable. Beleive me I have tried. And Im still trying just to know the history. Im such an idiot!
I will keep this in mind. Do you have a picture of one so I know what I'm looking for?

I do have bundle of papers about the car that I need to go through ...


Is there a chance the original POP is in those ???

The 3877178 casting is a 1962~78 230 or 250 casting.
The casting date just to the left (out of picture) ends in '7', which is 1967, the rest of the numbers are the full date.
Head looks original also.

The cowl tag is one of just a few I've seen with no body options what so ever.
Stuff like the AM radio would not be noted on the cowl, but would be on your build sheet if it's still there.

Is there a chance the original POP is in those ???

The 3877178 casting is a 1962~78 230 or 250 casting.
The casting date just to the left (out of picture) ends in '7', which is 1967, the rest of the numbers are the full date.
Head looks original also.

The cowl tag is one of just a few I've seen with no body options what so ever.
Stuff like the AM radio would not be noted on the cowl, but would be on your build sheet if it's still there.
What's a POP?

What's a POP?

Tom:
The POP is the 'Protecto Plate' information card that was furnished in the original owners manual for warranty purposes. It is about the size of a credit card and it normally made of metal.
It is normally found in the original owners warranty booklet.
Here is alink to the Camaro Research Groups site with info - http://www.camaros.org/numbers.shtml#POPCodes
They are sometimes discarded after the warranty expires, the car is sold or ???
I found one of them for a car in a brown folder with other reciepts for some exhaust work ... So look through everything to see if it is there.

Hope this helps;
John

Well, I went through the bundle. It contained a whole ton of insurance and registration cards and receipts for work done. It looks like the car has had a couple fenders replaced, a new cylinder head, and tons of other miscellaneous maintenance.

There were a couple gems however:
http://img523.imageshack.us/img523/6582/72973211sh6.jpg

http://img523.imageshack.us/img523/2386/63920195lj0.jpg

http://img523.imageshack.us/img523/9076/19898470gx7.jpg

http://img523.imageshack.us/img523/8426/64848176xa8.jpg

From decoding the POP, I found that it came with a 250 I6, Saginaw 3-speed, 10 bolt rear, and an AM radio.

Marvelous, absolutely marvelous! Father's Day is coming in June.

...story keeps getting better, ...the POP :)

Awesome car, awesome documents. Very cool that it was your grandfathers and now you can enjoy it. You will see on this site most guys really appreciate an molested original car 6 cylinder or 8.:hurray:

Acidburn(great name, must be some story to it?),
Very cool to find original documents and apparently original car.
Grampa's ride on top of it all !!!!!!! Plain Jane aside, it has a lot going for it.
What type of throttle linkage does it have at the carb? Cable or solid?
If not too much trouble could you post a pic of the set up?
Joe

Acidburn(great name, must be some story to it?),
Very cool to find original documents and apparently original car.
Grampa's ride on top of it all !!!!!!! Plain Jane aside, it has a lot going for it.
What type of throttle linkage does it have at the carb? Cable or solid?
If not too much trouble could you post a pic of the set up?
Joe
It's not that interesting of a story. It's just from what was my favorite movie in 7th grade; I've just used it for everything since.
I think you can see the throttle linkage in this picture:
http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/2717/11ne0.jpg

Thanks for the prompt reply. excellent picture. That is how I recall the original
but long gone linkage on my 67 inline. All I find in the resto sources is cable set ups.
thanks again for the pic. Good luck with your 67.
Joe

You got the POP :hurray:
Boy, that's like Cake, Pie and Ice Cream all at once isn't it "thumbsup:
How cool a gift is that from your Grandad.
Can't be any gift to good for him for Fathers Day ...

Wow, that is one plane jane Camaro :) The only options I see are the L22 engine and the radio. Looks like it has painted wheels and dog dish caps also. This car was not on the lot long. Did your Granddad order it or just bought it off the lot?
Don't change a thing, just clean it up and enjoy.

I agree with Daniel donot touch it just clean her up an enjoy it !!
Now get out there and look above the gas tank and see if the build sheet
is there ,,it will be another doucument to add to the ones you have,
like said Fathers day is not far away. I would love to have a plain i mean plain jane 67 like yours,,,,,Frank

Thanks for the links. I'll look for all these codes this weekend.
I do have bundle of papers about the car that I need to go through. We'll see what they tell me.


I will keep this in mind. Do you have a picture of one so I know what I'm looking for?
Here is you build sheet pic, sorry it took a day or two.
http://www.nastyz28.com/buildsh.html
Its not on top scroll down.

Wow to have all the docs as you do your so so lucky, I bet you do have the buid sheet under the tank. That paperwork with all original car is like gold!

Wow, that is one plane jane Camaro :) The only options I see are the L22 engine and the radio. Looks like it has painted wheels and dog dish caps also. This car was not on the lot long. Did your Granddad order it or just bought it off the lot?
Don't change a thing, just clean it up and enjoy.
I honestly have no idea. I'll have to ask.

Here is you build sheet pic, sorry it took a day or two.
http://www.nastyz28.com/buildsh.html
Its not on top scroll down.
Thanks for the pic. I might be dropping the tank this weekend so I guess I'll find out if I have it then.

I honestly have no idea. I'll have to ask.


Thanks for the pic. I might be dropping the tank this weekend so I guess I'll find out if I have it then.
Well did you drop the tank? Just wondering. Is it there?

Well did you drop the tank? Just wondering. Is it there?
Nope, I didn't drop the tank.

OK, I finally got the chance to get under it and try to clean things off some.
The number on the side of the engine is 3877178. The numbers on the bell housing are 3858403 and 317. And on the transmission, they are 3858886 and either 317 or 817. There are more numbers on the trans, but I can't see them until I drop it.

Doesn't get any better than that Acidburn. It's great that you got a straight 67 with all the goodies and a family car at that, congrats.