Looking at Nascar.com and he is making the announcement at 11am eastern tomorrow seems like Kyle Busch is out and Jr. is in

man i hope not, dont like #24 or #48

man i hope not, dont like #24 or #48

Why? Because they're winners?

Yep, guess Jr will lose a whole bunch of fans. I've never seen that many people dislike one driver. That #24 sure gets a lot of things thrown at him when he wins a race.. I was hoping he'd go with the gibbs race team.. Jr and Smoke are pretty good buddies anyway......

One has to go where the money is, Hendricks is where its at. I would have like to seen him go with Ginn Racing, but slim money there. Childress would have been nicer. Gibbs would be an excellent move also.

Wowee, what a stable of talent Hendricks gonna have now :thumbsup: And to think that just a few short years ago it looked like Jack Roush had the crew that was capable of, and destined to, dominate Nascar for the next decade. Funny how quickly things can change huh lol.

Like it or not, if he wants to win a championship, HMS is the place to be... for now.

Why? Because they're winners?

no just have never liked there cockyness

Jayski (http://www.jayski.com/cupnews.htm) is reporting the same.

Reps from Ginn and Gibbs say they have no involvement in tomorrow's press conference, and Childress is in New Zealand on a hunting trip. Hendrick rep had no comment.

Really thought id see him at Childress. Oh well... Regardless the fact that Harvick is my guy... im sure wherever Jr goes he will have success.

man i hope not, dont like #24 or #48

Let me guess your a #20 fan.Cockyness from Gordon or Jimmy What planet are you from?I think Little E is doing the right thing going with a winning combo.I just hope the Red Bud sponsership follows him. I'd hate to see him in Kellogs colors

Let me guess your a #20 fan.Cockyness from Gordon or Jimmy What planet are you from?I think Little E is doing the right thing going with a winning combo.I just hope the Red Bud sponsership follows him. I'd hate to see him in Kellogs colors

NOPE DONT LIKE 20 JUST AS COCKY

Man, I hope not. Hendrick knows how to win and has the cash too, but so does Jr. It would make me sick to see him as Gordon and his clone's team mate....

Why? Because they're winners?

As for that, NO, because they are winers :D

Childress is in New Zealand on a hunting trip.
Yep he knows where to go...

This number thing, being owned by the teams..why is that?
most Motor racing in NZ, the driver applies or even replies each yr when they registatar their racing licence each yr...If they have a yr off, they can put the number on hold for a limitted time...
There are even classes of Stock cars in NZ, Stock cars are very diff to the states...where the champion and 2nd, 3rd from the previous yr can use the numbers 1, 2 and 3.

As far as what team Jnr goes to...lets what and see.

Done deal just was on ESPN, he's going to Hendrick. I am a Jr fan and if he can't make it happen there then..............


As for Gordon he and Dale SR go way back. Dale SR mentored him and jeff Gordon has always said SR was the one that helped him the most and he was from another team. Jr going to Hendrick has long Family ties, SR won Hendrick his first NASCAR race in the Bush Series and JR has know Rick Hendrick since he was a kid. I feel that it was a move that he made because he wants to win but he is also connected by a long Family history. His perternal grandfather owned the car along with Rick Hendrick that SR won that bush race in. There are family ties there, and it seems Jr likes to be involved in racing that way.

Personally i think that it was the best move he could have made for what he wanted in his Future. All he needs to do now is show he can drive because the winning equipment will be there for him

Sad Day 4 Me

One the other hand he cant have any excuses because everything race was he needs will be at hendricks. Maybe they can have a kellogs/bud car. Beer, not just for breakfast anymore!

I have a bunch of #8 merchandise for sale... CHEAP!!

Actually, it was a good move for him and I don't think money is the issue, but winning is. I think DEI has become more focused on BUSINESS than RACING lately. One thing is for sure, we will definitely find out if he has talent!

One thing is for sure, we will definitely find out if he has talent!
Sure he has talent...he sits up in the top 10/12, is able to move up the feild better than most to those positions....even with a car than doesnt have that 'xtra' the top guys have....
He used to make the odd wrong 'call' impatent or inexperiance, but not as much now...
When he has had a good car, he has held his own better than those that are usually at the back of the feild....
With mediocor equipment, even talented drivers only sit up in the top 10....those with less talent way back.
Racing ...winning, is talent + good equipment/teams

Good move JR. he will make a great team even better.:yes::beers:

Steptoe -

That didn't come out right. I totally agree he is a talented driver. What I really meant was that we will find out if it was him or his equipment that has been keeping him from a championship.

Right now, historically, there is a bunch of about 10 top high calibre drivers, unlike 5 or ten yrs ago...where there was 3 or 5 that stood out.
Sure we have beem Ernhart fans from way back in the 80s.....
And anti 24, but 24, hes talented too, got to still respect the talent,
After all, that finish line, its all about whos got the right hands on the wheel.

The wife has every race, since the 1st Gulf war, taped or DVDed!!!!

One the other hand he cant have any excuses because everything race was he needs will be at hendricks. Maybe they can have a kellogs/bud car. Beer, not just for breakfast anymore!


Of course, Danica Patrick moved for better equipment, and found out that the "equipment" she is missing has nothing to do with the machine she was in. She still rocks, but she is no closer to winning than before. I suspect this move buys Dale Jr. one more year of "Just give him a chance," from his fans. His problem has never been cash or team support imo. He is a good driver, but not a great driver. I wish NASCAR and his fans would just come to grips with the fact that he is an average talent driver, on the worlds biggest drving platform. If his name was Smith, he'd still be racing on Saturday nights at the local 1/4 mile track.

BTW, I like the guy, but he doesn't bring the fire to NASCAR that his dad did. That to me seems to be what everyone is waiting for. It may happen, but you either ARE, OR are NOT the Intimidator. Dale Jr. is not.

IMO, Dale Jr is his own man. He's not trying to be like his dad. He is trying to do what he thinks is right.

I think Jr loved and respected his dad. But it seems to me he strives hard to do the right thing and be a good person, an area the Intimidator may have lacked in early on.

When he wrecks of his own doing, he says "I just wrecked". When he causes someone elses to wreck, he looks straight into the camera and says it was my fault. These are a few areas guys like #20 could learn a thing or two from Jr.

I don't really care for Hendrick drivers. I watch every week hoping for anyone to win but them. But I am rooting for Jr to succeed. I hope he does well.

Dale SR was a great driver. And at the time of his death I think he had developed into a good man. But anyone who knows the type of person he was early in his life. I'm talking about when JR, Kerry, and Kelly were kids. He sure wasn't concerned for his children or family from all accounts I have seen or read.

But he turned out to be the greatest driver in NASCAR and all is well. All I'm saying is this. JR loved his dad. But because of his dad, he is a different type of person.

He'll never be the "Intimidator", nor do I think he wants to be.

IMO, Dale Jr is his own man. He's not trying to be like his dad. He is trying to do what he thinks is right.

I think Jr loved and respected his dad. But it seems to me he strives hard to do the right thing and be a good person, an area the Intimidator may have lacked in early on.

When he wrecks of his own doing, he says "I just wrecked". When he causes someone elses to wreck, he looks straight into the camera and says it was my fault. These are a few areas guys like #20 could learn a thing or two from Jr.

I don't really care for Hendrick drivers. I watch every week hoping for anyone to win but them. But I am rooting for Jr to succeed. I hope he does well.

Dale SR was a great driver. And at the time of his death I think he had developed into a good man. But anyone who knows the type of person he was early in his life. I'm talking about when JR, Kerry, and Kelly were kids. He sure wasn't concerned for his children or family from all accounts I have seen or read.

But he turned out to be the greatest driver in NASCAR and all is well. All I'm saying is this. JR loved his dad. But because of his dad, he is a different type of person.

He'll never be the "Intimidator", nor do I think he wants to be.


I agree with everything you said. I was speaking more to the fan base. I like the kid (to me he is a kid). But, that being said, he is not, imo, that great of a driver. He has average talent, and a legacy that buys him time to improve, where other drivers would not have, and have not had that luxury. I think it is shamefull that he will be racing against DEI in the future. I am sure that the animosity within the organization is causing him more grief than the equipment or the team members. Some guys can manage business, and some guys can drive. Rarely is it possible to be great at both.

I think it is a good story for NASCAR (and surely they will market to it) and a great way to build up Daytona in 08. :)

I think it is shamefull that he will be racing against DEI in the future.

Why?

Why?

Just seems like the guy with the name (and legacy) Earnhardt (the E in DEI) should be racing under that flagship. NASCAR has always hung it's hat on the "tradition" of their sport. I guess it is just a regular old mainstream sport, with the typical big time sports figure attitudes. It's not the car (like a football players costume), it's the driver.

Just seems like the guy with the name (and legacy) Earnhardt (the E in DEI) should be racing under that flagship. NASCAR has always hung it's hat on the "tradition" of their sport. I guess it is just a regular old mainstream sport, with the typical big time sports figure attitudes. It's not the car (like a football players costume), it's the driver.

NASCAR's been mainstream for a number of years. My question is why didn't SR have in his will that the kids own 51% of the business upon his death?

Besides, I bet Hendrick and both Sr & Jr go back way before DEI was formed.

Sr's legacy is with RCI.

Dale Jr. wants to make a name for himself, not live in his father's shadow, doing what his dad, did. If he went to RCR, it would make some of Dale SR'S fans happy, but JR would not be his own man.

The culprit here is Theresa Earnhardt. She is trying to run the race shop as a business that is HERS. Everyone says Dale Sr. built the business for his kids, but he left the business to her in his will. I don't think she ever had much love for JR. I think I heard that she sent JR away to military school, when he was a kid.

As I watched his press conferance, It became clear to me, that Jr. needs a father figure and maybe Rick Hendrick needs a foster son. (Rick's son Ricky died in a plane crash, enroute to Martinsville.)

I think Jr. will do well at Hendrick, and I hope he is there for a long time.

Dale Jr. is not his father. We can't keep substituting Jr for Sr ! (IMHO)

No Jr isn't his father. This may sound stupid but I have more respect and admiration for Jr than Sr.

I agree Jr has been given alot of breaks because of who he is. But alot of pressure and expectations come with the opportunities he has handed to him.

It takes a TEAM to win now days, not just a good driver.

I have always disliked Hendrick teams. Just because I always like the underdog, and not the guy with the most money and all the bandwagon supporters who root for them just becuase they win. But I will pull for Jr to do good. I expect Rick to put a really good team around Jr. So we will now see if he really is a good driver, or if it's all hype.

Restrictor plate races are won in the shop and wind tunnel. I want to see how he does on the 1 1/2 mile and shorter tracks. He should have everything he needs now to showcase what he's got.

It takes a TEAM to win now days, not just a good driver.





IMO, it isn't the "team" that seperates Dale Jr. from the winners circle. I think it IS his driving, and his being distracted by all of the junk off the track.

But, we'll see soon enough. :)

Next year NASCAR will run the COT every race, so it now becomes even more like an IROC race. Nascar has levied so many rules on the builders, crew chiefs and owners that the only variable now is the driver.......and LUCK. If you're in the wrong place at the wrong time then you lose.
I used to watch alot of races when it was about racing.....now it's just luck and pit strategy.
If I happen to be close to the tube, i'll try to catch the end of the races, but seldom plan on it.
Ho-Hum......another sport that has been sanctioned into oblivion.

buzz

Nascar has levied so many rules on the builders, crew chiefs and owners that the only variable now is the driver.......


This has been their intention since about what, the early 70s. :)

This has been their intention since about what, the early 70s. :)

You're not talking about the wings on the Superbirds are ya?;)

NOPE DONT LIKE 20 JUST AS COCKY

Bad news for ya.... If you aren't cocky in racing you aren't going to win. It takes that sort of mindset to get out there and race the way they do... Jr will lose a lot of fans because of his move. Sorry to see that. His fans are pretty passionate

You're not talking about the wings on the Superbirds are ya?;)



I might be. :) How about those Hemi motors. I'm sure there were other things, but those two were recently pointed out on a Speed TV program I saw.

Jr will lose a lot of fans because of his move. Sorry to see that. His fans are pretty passionate

Then they are not true Jr. fans..........:noway:

Then they are not true Jr. fans..........:noway:


You tell that to all the fans that would throw stuff on the track whenever #24 or #48 would win a race... I don't care much either way. The one I root for is driving the #20 car for Gibbs racing :D

You tell that to all the fans that would throw stuff on the track whenever #24 or #48 would win a race...

Like I said, not real race fans or #8 fans.....Just an excuse for them to throw crap on the track.

Bad news for ya.... If you aren't cocky in racing you aren't going to win.


Really, because if Gordon is considered cocky, he is hiding it very well. Oh, and he wins like very few in this sport ever have.