Contacted Classic Industies to order the OER repacement deluxe interior door window crank handles. These are Chrome with black knobs. I have never had them on my car, mine have always been aftermarket. To my amazement when they arrived I noticed the knobs do not turn at the end of the handles, but are fixed. Nothing to lubricate and work loose, they are fixed to the end of the handle crank. I contacted CI and they told me that is the way their OER part is made now, and did offer a refund if I want it. Maybe I am crazy, but I am pretty sure the original knob is supposed to turn at the end of the handle, thus making rolling the windows up/down much easier than it will be with these. Does anyone know a vendor who sells them like the originals?

The knob on the window handle is supposed to rotate around and not be fixed. I would send it back for a refund because that fixed knob is sure snap off soon.

If you have your original handle, I think you can oder the replacement knob or even repair the on that have if both pieces are still around. It's an easy fix as I used to do it all the time on my older cars.

Also, try Rick's for that handle (if the above doesn't work for you). Call them and see if they don't sell the correct one.

Rick's has them with the correct clear knob for your 69 (Black is incorrect), but I'm not sure how good they are. HERE'S (http://www.rickscamaros.com/cgi-local/SoftCart.exe/cgi-local/smpagegen.exe?U+scstore+scyw0016ff79ff79+-p+-c+scstore.cfg+IN-49R) the link for the door handles. Can't seem to find the Quarter Window handles.
Ed

I believe clear is for standard interior, black is for deluxe which is what I have. Thanks for the tip, I'll try them.

No, in 1969 there was only one "color" for the handles for all Chevrolet models and that was clear no matter what the interior. You can sometimes find NOS handles on ebay but they seem to be expensive (so what's new!!!)

Good luck...

Ed

That link for Ricks I believe is for the standard window handle. The deluxe has more of an arch built into the arm for the extra padding. If you put a standard on a deluxe panel you will be rubbing. I have not seen any deluxe with the white knobs from the restoration shops offered in awhile but they may be out there. I also had to use the black.

http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g136/Caman355/MVC-007F.jpg

Original GM cranks (P/N 8732961) are correct for both the deluxe and standard interiors (and for the front and the rear). I don't know about the repops, but if they rub, it sounds like yet another part that's wrong. If you can find a good used set of GM handles, you'll have no problems.

By the way, this same crank was also used on just about every Chevrolet, Pontiac, Buick and Oldsmobile car (and probably trucks) from 1969 through 1972 (*), so they shouldn't be that hard to find "used".

(*) Used only on the Chevrolet Nova and Pontiac Ventura in 1972.

Ed

Mike, if you can't find any Original handles like Ed suggested, although Ricks show them for $29 ea in black, you might want to call Classic back and ask about p/n 20037597. White handle for deluxe, and see if the knobs rotate on those.

Ed, your probably right on about the repop's. I have both the standard and deluxe repop handles and the standard will not work on the deluxe panel. Of coarse probably the repop door panel has alot to do with it. Regulator are correct. Waiting for Just Dashes to work on 69 door panels so I can send the originals there for repair.

Another option if you can't find any original GM handles would be to buy the black knob handles like Dennis has (you said they fit, right Dennis?) and replace the knobs with the clear from THIS PLACE (http://www.autobodysupplies.com/6_Handles_Knobs2005.pdf) (P/N 73-3840 - scroll all the way down), or THIS AUCTION (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Help-GM-Window-Handle-Knob-Clear-Screw-on_W0QQitemZ230146682815QQihZ013QQcategoryZ40018QQ rdZ1QQssPageNameZWD1VQQcmdZViewItem). It shouldn't be too difficult to drill out the rivet on the black knobs and install the clear. Again though, these are "replacements" so I'm not sure how good (or accurate) they are.

Just spitballing here...

Ed

NOS winders with clear knobs have not been available for a couple of years now.... (the front and rear winders are the same size.) The repops will rub on the deluxe doors.... so you need to hunt down the original cranks if you want to be happy.

Problem with used is that the knobs are always yellowed and you are doing a restoration... who wants yellowed knobs.... so you try to put the repop clear knob on the OEM crank and the knob wobbles and does not sit properly... and finally you put the repop back on and give up...

UNTIL you to to the NATS and they tell you that the winders are incorrect! :mad:

So you try Ebay and the guy ships you repop instead of original...
and so on ....:boring:

Yes they do fit and it seems like that might be the only alternative to getting a correct fit and right knob. It's just a shame you need to modify a new part.

Thanks for all the help. I called Rick's today to make sure the knobs rotated at the end of their handles (he checked and they do), and I ordered a set of the deluxe interior OER handles with the black knobs. They appear to have the correct curvature to fit the deluxe door, I guess we'll know for sure when they get here.

The Classic Industries handles are going back, still can't believe they would call it an OER part when the knob doesn't rotate. Not bashing, just want the rest of you to have a heads-up so you don't have to do the same thing I did. I think CI is going to want me to pay return freight, and I am not going to want to do that so we'll see how this goes...

Madmax thanks for including the image of your door with your post.

Don't thank him, he is just showing off how nice it is! And it is nice!

LoL!! You caught me..

Do the rear panels on a 69 deluxe interior car require the same handles as the front? Or will the standard cranks work without hitting?

The original GM handles in 1969 were the same front and back, standard or deluxe. The original P/N was 8732961 and they only came with clear knobs. No colors in 1969.

As stated before, these same handles were used on most 1969-1972 GM cars.

As for the repops, I can't help you there. Apparently they don't have the correct curve. In this case you would have to stick with original GM handles. Check ebay. There are usually a few handles available that are still in good condition. (The clear knobs end up yellowing after time). As a matter of fact, HERE'S (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1971-buick-skylark-GS-window-crank-handles-442-gto_W0QQitemZ320133335603QQihZ011QQcategoryZ140732 QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem) a fairly nice looking set (2) right now!

Ed

This is just my experience with the repop's again. The standard repop's rub on the chrome trim. This is a pic of the repop deluxe in the back. It misses the chrome. Can't blame the panel, those are GM. If you can't fine the originals, just get 4 of the deluxe repop's and be done.

http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g136/Caman355/MVC-016F.jpg

I see that NPD now offers the deluxe cranks with the clear knob. Just wonder if they have the correct arc in them?

I see that NPD now offers the deluxe cranks with the clear knob. Just wonder if they have the correct arc in them?

I would think so since that is supposed to be the only difference. You might want to call and make sure the knobs rotate since that was the start of this whole thread. Let us know.

I bought a set of the reproduction clear deluxe int. cranks for my car about a year ago.I don't remember where I bought them ,but I still have the boxes they came in. They are OER brand and the sticker says -
Part # 20037597
67-69 F BDY CLR DLX INT WIND CR

I don't know if they are exactly correct, but they look real close and fit and work well. The knob spins freely.
Billy