I have a 69 camaro and its got 4 wheel non power drum brakes. The car can barley stop so i want to put 4 wheel disks on it. I dont know whats a good brand to go with though. I know ground up and ricks first gen camaro all sell kits but dose anyone know if those kits are good. Also i heard alot about rightstuff being good. Any ideas on what i should go with.

Check out BelAirBob's conv kit I used it on my 67 and the brakes are 10 x better then the power drums it was born with and his prices are good too.

If you do a search you'll fine a few "home made" set-ups that work great. Only you have to gather the parts and assemble... still cheaper.

hey I am in the smae boat. Did a decent amout or research. I also have a friend that owns a faily large corvette shop (read used parts hook up).. After all of that I ended up going with the http://www.touring-classics.com/ setup after all was said and done it ended upo saving me $$

You can gather the parts and save some cash but if you want a bolt up system go with eighter of the two places listed. Bob will hook you up for not much more than what it will cost to have compairable parts scrounged from the junk yards and e-bay. You might save $150.00 doing your self and all the bolt on parts are still dirty.

If you going big brakes touring classics is hard to beat. It can be done cheaper your self by about $200.00 but again dirty parts and your calipers are not as nice as what hey give you plus you get tech support and that could be priceless!!

Joe

Im pretty sure i dont want to find all the parts myself i rather buy a kit. The touring kit looks really nice but i think its too much im looking to spend about 1,500. Ill take a look at BelAirBob's can u send me the web for it. What do you guys think of ricks first generation camaro i was wondering if there kit is any good. ALso just so you know its not going to be a drag car its gonna be a street car mabe 350 400 HP.

i think you should rethink going all discs, unless you have alot of money and time. in your situation, merely adding a brake booster will make all the difference in the world. a properly working power drum car can get the job done. if your car is a driver, the 11 inch discs up front will be more than adequate. if you want more, you can get bigger wheels and get more 'bling'. there are also 11 inch drums for the rear from master power brakes that are cheaper and perform as well as discs. all because your non-power drums don't work well, i'd hate to see you put more time and money than you need to in it. that time and money can be used on other goodies... best of luck, and let us know what you decide!

piece something together yourself- it's not that hard, and in the end you can honestly say that you did it yourself.

Well lets say i go to the junk yard looking around. Can i take the whole rear out of a newer camaro and change it to muilty leaf and be able to use the disks and all. What about the front of the car what kind of brakes can i use for the front if i was looking around in the junk yard. I figure i can buy the booster and master cylinder. So what do you think???

i personally would not trust the stopping power that could save my life on a daily basis to stuff i found in a junkyard. start with a booster. then get better front brakes; they do 70% of the stopping anyway. then worry about the rear. you seem fixated on the rear for stopping power...

Well lets say i go to the junk yard looking around. Can i take the whole rear out of a newer camaro and change it to muilty leaf and be able to use the disks and all. What about the front of the car what kind of brakes can i use for the front if i was looking around in the junk yard. I figure i can buy the booster and master cylinder. So what do you think???

Rear end is wider, so you will have wheel fitmit issues or will have to buy new wheels with new offset or cut the rear end down along with the axles to make it work.

So are you after just the added stoping power of front disc brakes? They are a great investment and the stock type stuff works very good and more than enough for daily drivin street use. They also fit behind stock style and aftermarket 15 and 16 inch wheels. The rear drums will work just fine.

If your after some lokks rear disc look great and give that performance look. If you have stock style or 15 inch wheels most kits will not fit. Only thos e that are advertised to fit these wheels will. The 4th gen Camaro rear brakes will not fit behind a 15 inch wheel. The touring classics kit above will not fit behind the 15 inch front wheels and has some issues with 17 inch Torque thrust II's depending the variation ordered.

THe long story here is yes you can go to the junk yard and buy parts but you better have some idea of what your doing. THere are lots of people doing conversions to big brakes from the C5/C4 Vett and LS (98 & up) Camaros using aftermarket brackets to mount things up.

There is nothing wrong with wanting that big brake look..............it looks awsome and adds a very performance oriatated look to you ride and if they are working, set up and installed correctly will provide every bit of the performance that they look like they should.

If your new to brakes then buying a kit is sure fire way to keep from wreaking your Camaro.......and even that is not a garentee if your mechanical skills to install the kit are not up to the task.

Decide what you want and why and then go from there. There are plenty of people here to help with what ever direction you want to go.

Joe

4 wheel drums can work just great if they are set up right. You should be able to stop well now, just more leg presure. A booster will make that easy on the leg. You should be able to lock up your brakes now if they are right.
If you went from a 6 cld to a 8 you may want the front pwr disk tho.

I agree with some of the other post that if you only need a few parts then get just the parts you need as long as it satisfies your needs.

If you go the route of buying all new I would highly recommend Right Stuff Detailing. I needed everything and bought from then. I had some minor issues and they were very helpful.

http://www.daves68camaro.com/pdb_conv.php

-Dave

I made the mistake of buying a "kit". For about 1/2 -2/3's the money I could have got everything new/re-man'd from local stores with little time. :clonk:
Then this site starts :D

Here is a kit we installed a few days ago on a 68 Camaro. We sell it for $550 as you see it here. We are doing a full install story, but in advance of this I can tell you they work really good.

http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u212/ProdigyCustoms/DSC01679.jpg

I like that kit. I assume that you sell it for 69 also. PM me with details and/or website. I have a non-power 4 wheel drum car too and want to add front disks. It is a driver and nothing else.

The 69 kit is the same kit. You can call me at

four zero seven 832 1752

That is a great deal. Also notice is has the prop valve and tubing for it. All new parts!!

In South Arkansas where I live I pieced toghether mine from old parts, got new from the old stuff or rebuilt and used old parts as cores. My total cost by the time I got a prop valve I could use, cleaning up parts, painting (hey at $6.00 per can now it's an added cost) I spent just over $400.00.

At $150.00 more for the above kit it boils down to what is your time worth and how much can you get old/core parts for. Also if you don't have old core parts you can just pay core outright. Some places it's easy to find spindles that will work in the junk yards. Here that stuff is rare as hens teeth!!

I am a cheap SOB so I hunt and gather but I am also looking into kits for stuff now. My time is worth more now. It's work OT, or go spend money in the junk yard. I can stay clean, not work as hard, still have a good time because I love my job and come out way more money ahead doing the OT and buying a kit. I just have to practice what I preach now.

Joe

Here is a kit we installed a few days ago on a 68 Camaro. We sell it for $550 as you see it here. We are doing a full install story, but in advance of this I can tell you they work really good.

http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u212/ProdigyCustoms/DSC01679.jpg
Who produces this kit?

For what it's worth:

I just recently converted the rears from drums to 11" discs and hardly noticed a difference at all. It's nice knowing that it's all new and improved hardware but don't expect too see much of a difference in stopping if your current drums are working properly. Now I've got a complete set all 4 drums and associated hardware in the shed that worked perfectly if anyone is interested.

For what it's worth:

I just recently converted the rears from drums to 11" discs and hardly noticed a difference at all. It's nice knowing that it's all new and improved hardware but don't expect too see much of a difference in stopping if your current drums are working properly. Now I've got a complete set all 4 drums and associated hardware in the shed that worked perfectly if anyone is interested.

In a panic stop is where your going to notice it. Don't ask me how I know it happened but in Dallas about 4 1/2 hours away from home and in heavy traffic. Boy was I glad I had the front disc and my rear drums were in good working order. Now way I could have stopped in time with 4-wheel drums.

I would highly recommend the Prodigy kit. I had a similar kit installed on my 68. Front four wheel drum/ to front disc. This kit has all you need and looks very original. I paid a little more up here in Canada and I got the prebent stainless front brake line kit. The car now stops as good as my 2007. Best upgrade I have made!

Who produces this kit?

I do not know who the manufacturer is. But I can tell you everyone sells the same kit under a different name (private label). I think we just happen hto have gotten closer to the manufacturer? Or found a distributor with less margin in it? Or maybe we just work for less margin? or maybe it has to do with the amount we bought?

Anyway, look closely at other kits, even the instructions text are identical.

With all respect for Prodigy, I ended up buying my kit from Belair Bob's, same kit and it is $100 less. Shipping cost was $15 more from Bob's but I am still ahead $85.

Just saw this post so a late reply. I bought the RIght Stuff front disk kit from RIcks and kept the rear drums and stopping power seems ok. Had to replace the master to get the calipers not to bind, and Right Stuff helped me trouble shoot and replaced parts at no cost.