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: mono to multi leaf conversion kit problem


bigsteve
Aug 13th, 07, 11:22 AM
I am using a detroit speed mono to multi leaf kit and now that its assembled and on the ground there is a space in between the steel locating pad and the mono leaf perch about 1/4 inch. The instruction said not to use the rubber pads so I did not, I have a multi leaf lower shock plates from another camaro that I am using. Also the shackle on the right side is tilted further back than the shackle on the left side although I think thats a diffrent problem all together. Any help would be great.
Thanks Steve:confused:

BPOS
Aug 13th, 07, 11:29 AM
I don't think the 1/4" space is a problem. The multi shock plates are pretty stout and shouldn't bend. I would use 2 U-bolts per side. If you had used the pads you would have had a much larger space. If you are really concerned about it you could fabricate some spacers to fill in the gap.

bigsteve
Aug 13th, 07, 02:23 PM
If the kit is made for this car and type conversion why does'nt it fit correctly? Did it have a incorrect plate? Also what about the scackle on the right side is that a sign of the srring being weak?

pdq67
Aug 13th, 07, 05:47 PM
I've ran 5-leaf, '68 'Bird multi's on my car for years fine after snapping a mono- by hanging my drivers side slapper-bar on a RR rail ball at a crossing due to one heck of a pot-hole!!

He, He!! Bent my slapper in an "S" as my mono- broke just aft of the eye like I'm always saying that I don't like about the Cal-Trax and other that are non-slappers that lock right there!!!!

pdq67

BPOS
Aug 13th, 07, 06:10 PM
If the kit is made for this car and type conversion why does'nt it fit correctly? Did it have a incorrect plate? Also what about the scackle on the right side is that a sign of the srring being weak?

The spring perch for a factory monoleaf isn't as deep as it is on a multileaf axle. You are putting 3 leafs (four?) where only one leaf + pads went originally. Not familiar with the DSE spring, but did it come with a very short spacer leaf about 6"-8" long? If so, you can do without it - it's just there to take up space if you happen to have a multileaf spring perch. If your springs didn't come with the spacer leaf, it's no big deal to fab up a spacer. I too am running multis in mono perches. I initially had about a 1/4" gap and wasn't concerned about it. I since added a 1/2" lowering block which increased the gap to 3/4" - I made spacers out of 3/4" square tubing.

Can't help you on the shackle.

madmax87
Aug 13th, 07, 06:20 PM
Your shackel being tilted is normal until you put weight on the axle. Thats why you leave the shackel bolts loose till you get weight on them. Bounce the car after you lower it and the shackels should even out to each other. Then tighten the bolts with the weight on them.

bigsteve
Aug 13th, 07, 10:12 PM
The car is on the ground and the bolts are tight but not torqued about 4 to 5 threads showing and I have bounced it up and down. The shackles are still not the same the left is straight and the right is pointed more towards the rear of the car.

bigsteve
Aug 13th, 07, 10:21 PM
The problem is that the metal spacer plate is only about 3/8 " and it needs to be about 1/2" to fill the area between the upper spring and top of perch on axel. I am not sure about the spring manufacture but it is not part of or made by DSE, they have been on the car about 15 years. The person that installed them did a hack job so I am now correcting his work, one of the things that was not used the first time is the mono to multi conversion kit, multi leaf shock plates.

bigsteve
Aug 16th, 07, 05:52 AM
http://newrear001Having trouble with my rear leaf springs on 69 coupe with 327. The left side shackle is vertical and the right side is pointing more to the rear, is this a sign of a weak spring on the right side? The spring were installed about 15 years ago but the car has been sitting most or all of that time. Could they get weak on one side just from sitting the car does look lower on the right rear side also. I also used a DSE mono to multi kit and I still have a gap between the top of the spring and the rear perch about 1/4 inch with the kits plate installed. I was told that its the 5 leaf springs are the cause of the problem by DSE they said they never had a complaint about the kit also said to add the rubber pads to try and take up the space. I am also using multi leaf shocks and shock plates. Any help would be great should I go back to original mono leafs ?

JimM
Aug 16th, 07, 09:33 AM
We seem to be recylcling.
A picture would help?

RBouley
Aug 16th, 07, 04:52 PM
I have the DSE Kit, it worked great...a couple of questions, though. Do you have 5 - leaf springs? Did you place the spacers between the multi leaf lower shock plate and the mono leaf perch? Did you also install the 1/4" steel plate spacer between the perch/lower shock plate and the spring? I have 5 - leafs, installed both, used the DSE lower shock plates, and everything cinched up tightly. I can send you photos if you are interested...Good Luck

bigsteve
Aug 16th, 07, 09:25 PM
http://newrear 001Hi, yes I have 5 leaf springs, yes I did install all parts I am trying to post a pic so you can see for yourself. Please send me a pic of your car please. Thanks Steve

bigsteve
Aug 17th, 07, 08:21 AM
Dumb question but should a 5 leaf spring have 5 or 6 leafs? The springs I have on the car only have 5 leafs total?

pdq67
Aug 17th, 07, 03:39 PM
I think the 6th "leaf" is actually a flat spacer "leaf", if you will...

Like H-D P/U's use if you care to look under them.

T-Torden
Aug 18th, 07, 12:33 AM
-BPOS- "I too am running multis in mono perches. I initially had about a 1/4" gap and wasn't concerned about it. I since added a 1/2" lowering block which increased the gap to 3/4" - I made spacers out of 3/4" square tubing."

Could you put on a picture, showing the spacer. Thanks

Tom -Denmark-