wondering if some of you guys out there with an original 67/68 BB can measure the length like I have in the picture and let me know if 6 1/2" is correct, so I can eliminate this as a problem as to why my fan does not go halfway into the shroud. thanks,


http://http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g35/johnnyscamaro67/camaros/100_1551_edited.jpg

I've just run into this problem because my 68 BB was overheating. It was because the fan didn't go into the shroud enough. New shroud, fan and an electric fan and we're golden. The measurement though, exactly like yours, is 7 1/2 inches. Is your car overheating?

yeah cjg my car is overheating on hot days and I suspect its because of the fan not being in the shroud. Why am I only at 6 1/2", compared to your setup? 7 1/2" would put my fan in the right spot:D
I swear I ordered a 67/68 shroud last year. :confused:

Do you have any pictures

johnny you most likely got the wrong fan clutch on there.theres 2 different ones. and the difference is length of it. it was posted couple of weeks ago to help you out.

johnny you most likely got the wrong fan clutch on there.theres 2 different ones. and the difference is length of it. it was posted couple of weeks ago to help you out.

thanks but I checked out the hayden site and a 2710 is what they suggest will work. It is 1.75" in length from mount to mount, so I checked mine and it is 1.75 so I am still confused.

That sure looks like the right shroud.

Why not put a 1" spacer behind that fan clutch?

i'm 7 1/4 and the fan sets in more orig rad and shroud

i'm 7 1/4 and the fan sets in more orig rad and shroud

Thats in the same ballpark as cjg at 7 1/2". What looks different on mine compared to yours? so I can get my mystery solved:confused:

That sure looks like the right shroud.

Why not put a 1" spacer behind that fan clutch?

thanks but I want to stay with a stock set up Jim. So a spacer is out of the question.

I will let you know which shroud I got. The first one was like yours and I had the same result as you. So, I had to get another that is still stock. Let me get back to you.

It's a 68 Big Block shroud from Rick's First gen. It helped me bring the fan in an extra inch. Good luck man. It's working for me in Florida with A/C during some 100 degree weather.

Wow, like you guys were reading my mind. I have the same prob. 67' small block, long pump, still an inch shy from getting to the shroud, let alone deep into the shroud. I didn't want to add a spacer to the fan clutch because it looks like it will wabble. I too have the overheating problem. So I guess my Q is can I add possibly 2 spacers to get my depth, or say screw it and put the electric fan. I'm becoming truly aggravated attempting to fix the problem. Thanks

It's a 68 Big Block shroud from Rick's First gen. It helped me bring the fan in an extra inch. Good luck man. It's working for me in Florida with A/C during some 100 degree weather.


thanks cjg, what was your conclusion about your old shroud? do you think that it was a 69' or just a bad repo?

Is it possible to post a pic with a tape measure of your shroud like mine. It would be greatly appreciated

I think I may have come up with the solution and it is a little :o . I was looking at a picture of an original BB 67 camaro, and the shroud seems to be bolted to the top bracket farther out than mine. So if it's okay not to have the shroud 100% up against the rad and out maybe 1/4" that will bring my fan halfway in. The only problem will be a hole in the shroud where it was bolted.

http://http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g35/johnnyscamaro67/camaros/67camaro-2.jpg


http://http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g35/johnnyscamaro67/camaros/67camaro-7.jpg

Johny,

I don't know what year it was. Just knew it wasn't gonna work, car was over heating. Bought the proper one for the car and it worked. I'll get you a pic.

OK, !!!! who's L78 is that in the pic that johnny has ?

Johny,
I have the pictures. Just don't know how to attach them from this forum. Never done that. I have them saved on my hard drive. Let me in on the secret and they are yours.

OK, !!!! who's L78 is that in the pic that johnny has ?


I went to google and I think I searched 396BB and that was one on the pics that came up. I'm sure it's still there if you want to research it.

if you pull shroud out to the fan.it is as the fan is still not sitting in the shroud.now the fan will pull air but now not through rad cause the gap between shroud and rad.and will still over heat.

Are you certain it's the right clutch?
I think that is the problem, the clutch is too short. The shroud looks very right, it's not a 69 BB shroud, they are nearly flat.

Are you certain it's the right clutch?
I think that is the problem, the clutch is too short. The shroud looks very right, it's not a 69 BB shroud, they are nearly flat.


well no, I am not sure that it is %100 the right clutch. What would the proper length be for a BB 67' from fan mount to pulley mount? I measure 1 3/4.

The only other thing I can think of is motor mounts.


http://http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g35/johnnyscamaro67/camaros/100_1898.jpg

if you pull shroud out to the fan.it is as the fan is still not sitting in the shroud.now the fan will pull air but now not through rad cause the gap between shroud and rad.and will still over heat.

here's a pic with the my shroud pulled out just a bit like the L78 in the first pic.

http://http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g35/johnnyscamaro67/camaros/100_1905_edited.jpg (http://http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g35/johnnyscamaro67http://http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g35/johnnyscamaro67/camaros/67camaro-2.jpg/camaros/100_1905_edited.jpg)

check the bracket that the shroud mounts to, the 67 is different than the 68 and 69 they use a clip mounted nut were as 67 is welded on, it might be a different length also, I dont have a 68-69 compare to

check the bracket that the shroud mounts to, the 67 is different than the 68 and 69 they use a clip mounted nut were as 67 is welded on, it might be a different length also, I dont have a 68-69 compare to

I measured the bracket and it is 4 1/8" from where it mounts to the rad support, then to the other end. It has a clip mounted nut and I bought it from classic.

well no, I am not sure that it is %100 the right clutch. What would the proper length be for a BB 67' from fan mount to pulley mount? I measure 1 3/4.

Well... I don't know the "right" length. But, to an ole hotrodder like me, the right one would be the one that puts the fan where it belongs.

Unfortunately, that part is one place where function might need to override correctness, if you drive the car and have cooling problems.

You could always put a 1" spacer on to see if it hepls your cooling issues, and hunt up a more appropriate clutch if it does.

Well... I don't know the "right" length. But, to an ole hotrodder like me, the right one would be the one that puts the fan where it belongs.

Unfortunately, that part is one place where function might need to override correctness, if you drive the car and have cooling problems.

You could always put a 1" spacer on to see if it hepls your cooling issues, and hunt up a more appropriate clutch if it does.

good point:beers:

Holy Cow. I got the pictures loaded. See how far in the fan is? I moved away from stock fan and clutch..and put a flex fan with correct shroud and an electric fan that runs when the key is on, instead of kicking on at 180 degrees. Drove it yesterday evening 95 degrees outside and car never got over 1/3 on the gauge. Oh well hope this helps.



http://http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd145/cjg68/DSCN2551.jpg

http://http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd145/cjg68/DSCN2552.jpg

http://http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd145/cjg68/DSCN2553.jpg

well I think you got the hang of it, with putting the pics up. Excellent angles.

your setup confirms what I was thinking about. The top vertical edges of the shroud are pulled away slightly from the rad, looks to be at least 1/2 and inch. Thats what I have done now with mine and the fan is now inside the shroud, although not as much as yours. thanks cjg

Thanks for your help on the pics. Good luck