what's the green wire with plug that's hooked to the column support bar?
Is that the reverse lights hook up? for some reason i don't see a plug that looks like it'll plug into that in the kit. am i missing a piece?

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Also how do i wire the neutral safety switch on the saginaw 4spd? Before the old wiring pulled out it didn't have a neutral safety. now i see the wiring for it...do i just connect the 2 ends together? someone else ran the wires but he stopped and left me with figuring what the heck he ripped out and what he connected. so now all i have is a loop of wires labled neutral safety and back up lights with no connectors attached to them.

car is a 68 conv. thanks!

oops...it's AAW...american auto wire...fat fingers :(

If you dont get a answer from here call AWW and they will be able to answer it for you. Very nice helpful people there!

Yeah, unless someone that has done an AAW Update on a 68 chimes in, you'll need to call AAW and go through the directory to Donny Bock (he might be #216 if my memory works, but you can definitely use the directory and enter Bock as the last name and get him). I will shoot Theresa and Donny a link to this thread, so maybe they'll come up here in the morning before you call.

Even on the Update kits, AAW generally follows GM color conventions. So the reverse lamps should be one pink and one light green, and if it's like my 69, it won't be terminated (to allow the flexibily for routing the wires to wherever the backup light switch might be).

The NSS should be two 12 gage purples, and it's also probably not teminated for flexibility (NSS on the column, NSS on the floor shifter, etc.). I looked at the factory 68 wiring diagram and don't see two greens on a plug like that, and I don't see anything like it on my 69 Update diagram.

In 68, chevy did not install a neutral or clutch safety switch. edit: on manual transmission cars.

There was some sort of safety device in 69, but I never had a 69, so I don't know for sure what it is. A clutch safety switch I think, could possibly retrofit it.

I've often wished my 68 had one. There is one built into my tko, I'm gonna find a way to use it when I'm wiring my EFI this winter.

The backup light switch was on the transmission.

and of course, Eric has all the colors right.

thanks guys...i'll give them a call tomorrow.

Yep, 69 has the clutch safety switch, which runs the two purples through a switch mounted on the brake/cltuch pedal underdash backet, and connected to the clutch pedal via a rod. When clutch is down, circuit is complete and car will crank.

Yet another point for the fine 69 :)

Dark green to turn signals? One wire being power from fuseblock to t/sig switch, the other wire to right turn signal?

That is your 4 speed backup light jumper harness to firewall. Simply take the pink and light green wires from the AAW kit, put terminals on them and plug them into this connector.

If you need a connector and teminals, give us a call and we'll take care of you.

Your 4 speed switch can be plugged into the grommet in the firewall.

When looking at he firewall standing in front of the car, it's at about 2 o'clock on the trans tunnel.

Thanks,
Donny
(via Theresa)

PS - Thanks for the link, Eric.

Called up was told that there's no plug that goes into that from AAW. The person i talked to said that i can cut and solder the two wires. i haven't crawled under the car to check what is coming out of the tranny. i jammed the two wires (pink and green) into the plug and shifted the car in reverse just to see if the reverse lights up..but it didn't...but that's when the car is in the on/run position but the engine wasn't running. i'll try it again with someone behind me watching.

oh and the NSS...since there isn't one for the 68 i connected the two purple wires together so it'll start...just gotta remember that i'm not in gear or i have the foot on the clutch. is there a way to get a clutch pedal switch put in there?

That is your 4 speed backup light jumper harness to firewall. Simply take the pink and light green wires from the AAW kit, put terminals on them and plug them into this connector.

If you need a connector and teminals, give us a call and we'll take care of you.

Your 4 speed switch can be plugged into the grommet in the firewall.

When looking at he firewall standing in front of the car, it's at about 2 o'clock on the trans tunnel.

Thanks,
Donny
(via Theresa)

PS - Thanks for the link, Eric.

69's had a clutch pedal switch, but I have no idea what it looks like or if/how it can be adapted to your 68. Where there's a will there's a way??

Dan-

Who did you talk to when you called? AAW makes a factory fit dash harness for the 68 manual trans, so it seems they have to have that connector. If you just talked to whoever answered the phone, try calling again and talk to Donny (I think he's ext. 216, but it's best to do the lookup by last name and enter "Bock". If you don't get him, just eave him a VM that you're the guy with the 68 backup light jumper that I pointed him to; he will call you back).

As far as adding the 69 clutch safety switch, I can't think of a reason you couldn't. The switch itself and the rod are available repro (AAW sells them, so does Rick's).

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Dan,
Sorry if you got information that didn't make sense to you when you called in. But that connector is definitely your 4 speed jumper harness. All that you need to do with our Classic Update Kit is tie the pink wire to the dark green and the light green to the light green.

As far as your backup lights not working when you did that, there are 2 possibilities:

#1) Check for keyed 12 volt voltage on the pink wire with the key on. You should have voltage there. If you do not - check the fuse on the panel for the gauges as it may be blown. If you do have 12 volts there, when you plug that in, it should send 12 volts down to the switch on the transmission. And when you activate the switch on the trans it should transfer power to the light green wire and ultimately back to the backup lights.

#2) Double check to be sure you have voltage on the light green wire at the back of the car with the switch activated as you may not have a good ground of the backup lights themselvs.

This is from Donny in Tech, and he asked that you call him directly at ext 216 because he's been following this thread closely and will assist you personally.

Thanks!