say there are 5 camaros in a line and getting ready to take off from a green light...each camaro has a different tranny (see list below) but same 3:55 rear end gear......which car would tach out 1st gear first ?...or which one would basically tach out all the gears quickest ?which one is geared the lowesti guess i would be asking ?

borg warner-stock
saginaw-stock
and the muncie-stock m20 or the m22 close ratio
tko 5 speed-stock
tko 6 speed-stock

Here is a link to a site that gives engine and transmission specs for most models. You can look at the gear ratios for all tranny's. http://www.ridgecrest.ca.us/~biesiade/Specs.htm

say there are 5 camaros in a line and getting ready to take off from a green light...each camaro has a different tranny (see list below) but same 3:55 rear end gear......which car would tach out 1st gear first ?...or which one would basically tach out all the gears quickest ?which one is geared the lowesti guess i would be asking ?

borg warner-stock
saginaw-stock
and the muncie-stock m20 or the m22 close ratio
tko 5 speed-stock
tko 6 speed-stock

Which one tachs out first gear and which one goes through all the gears quickest are probably two different things. I think the TKO500 has the lowest first gear at 3.27:1. I'm not sure about the B-W but the Muncies are around 2.40 and 2.60.

Good Luck!

......which car would tach out 1st gear first ?...or which one would basically tach out all the gears quickest ?which one is geared the lowesti guess i would be asking ?


As already stated, some of the TKO's come with a 3.27:1 first gear, and would wind out 1st/first.

My gear box is not on your list, it has a 3.25:1 first gear. With a 3.50:1 rear gear, I get about 65 to 70 feet (50mph) when I grab 2nd.
For drag racing thats actually to much 1st gear. A lower (numericaly higher) total first gear would be better. Say a 3.89 to 4.56:1, rear gear with my 3.25 1st, for atleast a 12.64:1 total first gear (3.25 X 3.89 = 12.64).

Watch this guys in car vid, he is grabbing 2nd within 40 or so feet of launch.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EyksWlC-HFo
I'd say he is probably using a 3.20 to 3.50 first, with about a 4.88 or more rear gear.
Compare my vid, with a 3.50: rear gear (more street friendly)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HFiVc0Kbqpk

Hope some of this helps, also here is a calculator for gear ratios.
http://www.geocities.com/z_design_studio/transmission_z28_6.html

---Bill.

Isn't modern at all, but I figure that a 4+1 Richmond 1 to 1 ratio 5th gear 5-speed tranny w/ a 3.25 or so 1st gear along w/ either a 2.73 for road trips or to 3.31's to 3.55's for some strip duty would be a dandy IF it could hold say 600+ T.

I say this b/c OD tranny's are less eff. in OD than 1 to 1 high gear ratio tranny's!!

pdq67

Isn't modern at all, but I figure that a 4+1 Richmond 1 to 1 ratio 5th gear 5-speed tranny w/ a 3.25 or so 1st gear along w/ either a 2.73 for road trips or to 3.31's to 3.55's for some strip duty would be a dandy IF it could hold say 600+ T.
I say this b/c OD tranny's are less eff. in OD than 1 to 1 high gear ratio tranny's!!
pdq67

Absolutely:thumbsup:

My G-force is the HD version of the Nash/Richmond 5, with dog-ring/face-plating.
Never could figure out why those tranys were known as " 4+1 " ??

---Bill.

I dont think there is a TKO 6 speed
and you left off the T-56
first gear ratio of 2.66:1 (6th of .5:1)

But what exactly are you trying to figure out, why the odd question?