So, my mother purchased a 69 "Z/28" way back around 1990. Apparently it was a clone, but I didn't know much about cars until about the past 3 or 4 years. I finally bought it from her, and just now decided to decode it. So, this is what I have:

ST 69 12437 NOR188449 BDY
TR 711 55 50 PNT
11C

69 = 1969
12437 = Fisher-style Cowl tag code, "4" meaning V8
NOR188449 = "NOR" for Norwood Assembly Plant, 188449 is the specific order number of the car, sequentially
711 = Interior Trim Code. Standard Bucket Seats, black
55 50 = Exterior Paint Code - Azure Turquoise Body/Dover White top
11C = Car made in 3rd Week of November

Now, I know the X-codes would appear below the paint section...but is there anything more you can assume from that tag at all? IE, what size V8 came with it or anything like that? I was hoping it'd be a true Z/28 but Im sure the guys selling it to her weren't too dumb...

On another note, being Red/black stripes now, I never had any idea it was Blue/White originally lol.

Ahh, after a little more research, the 12437 means it was a 307 V8...

Anything else I can get out of this VIN at all? Maybe something obscure?

Look at the rear end, original? 12 bolt? multi-leaf? what size fuel line? Is there a hole for the speedometer in the firewall next to the distributor? Is the original passenger side exhaust bracket still there? where is it? BBC heater core or SBC heater core? Looked behind backseat for build sheet? above tank under trunk floor is possible location also....

edit..12437 doesnt necessarily mean 327. It just means its a factory V8...:D thats a plus.

Ahh, after a little more research, the 12437 means it was a 307 V8...

Anything else I can get out of this VIN at all? Maybe something obscure?
12437 on the trim tag means it's a coupe.
Nothing more, nothing less.
What's the VIN?

Now, I know the X-codes would appear below the paint section...but is there anything more you can assume from that tag at all? IE, what size V8 came with it or anything like that? I was hoping it'd be a true Z/28 but Im sure the guys selling it to her weren't too dumb...

On another note, being Red/black stripes now, I never had any idea it was Blue/White originally lol.

So ... What is the "X" code? Lay that one us too as it may reveal some additional information on the car.

Rob -

First, welcome to Team Camaro!

Like James said, the 4 on the cowl tag means nothing.

From CRG:

"All 1968-69 Camaros had a style code of 12437 or 12467 on the cowl tag - the 3rd digit of the firewall style number for these two years was fixed to 4 and effectively had no meaning."

Is the VIN 124379Nxxxxxx? If so, it was a V8 car.

Like Harley said, the fuel line(s) can provide a clue (one or two) if original, as does the speedo cable location (Muncies had the cable coming through the firewall near the distributor). Does the car have factory A/C? The frame rail reinforcement for factory dual exhaust cars is a plate on the driver side (c'mon Harley!).

Have you had the rear seat back out? If you haven't and the brace behind the seat hasn't been cleaned or painted, you might see the X code in chalk on the brace, on the driver side.

So ... What is the "X" code? Lay that one us too as it may reveal some additional information on the car.
I assume this car is too early for an X code since it wasn't listed.

BTW does this car have three pedals? No automatic Z/28's!

Jeff

OOPS...sorry Eric. :D

I assume this car is too early for an X code since it wasn't listed.

BTW does this car have three pedals? No automatic Z/28's!

Jeff

Its a stick Z28 heh. Also the motor is NOT original if it is a Z/28 - its just a 350.

I'll have to dig around for this build sheet if its around...

And whats pasted up there is the entire plate. No X-code to be found. So, I was mistaken in thinking that if theres no X-code, its not a Z. And by that I mean, some Z/28's didn't have the X-code on the plate?

Cars built prior to the second week of December '68 did not have the X codes stamped on the tags yet. So, yes, it can still be a Z/28. Since it's a Norwood car, chances are you aren't going to find a build sheet. Like Eric K. stated, pop the back cushion out and see if there is a X3 or X7 chalked on the bulkhead behind the seat. Those would correlate to X33 and X77 which are the Z/28 codes.

I assume this car is too early for an X code since it wasn't listed.

Jeff

I was assuming that 11C was the week November '69 due to the extend run in 1969 on Camaros. So you all are saying that 11C is actually 3rd week Nov. '68? An Early run car rather that late run car?

Yep, Nov 68 build. Should be a "small" trim tag.

Late production 69's ended with a build date of 11A so if you see an 11B,C,D, code it will always be November of 68. Of course posting the VIN would also help determining which calendar year the car was made in.

It also looks like it may be two-tone paint, any pics?