Im trying to figure out what I have. And if it might be a COPO. Pictures are in this thread (http://www.camaros.net/forums/showthread.php?t=117647)

Heres the VIN:

1 24 37 9 N 567XXX

ST 69 12437 NOR212615 BDY

TR 711 52 B PNT

12C X-22

And some part numbers for parts I have, may be more #'s later:
Engine-

Note: I was informed that this was an over the counter replacement motor for warranty.

Cast# 3999289
Serial# CE555864
HI PER Pass F9
Build Date- June 18 74
A 1972-75 454ci could be either 215-270 Corvette or Monte Carlo.
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Heads-

Drivers side – 6272990
GM 2T
HI-PERF
E 7 75 = May 7 1975
Passenger side – 6272990
GM 1T
HI-PERF
E 5 76 = May 5 1976
Intake Manifold-

3885069
2-hole Open Plenum
Distributor-

1111169
7 M2 ] = 1967 Dec 21
Vacuum Unit B1 1115357/1116201 Should be after 4/66
Alternator-

1102464 63A {or 4}
L22 12Y{or V) NEG
63A in COPO’s
4-Speed Transmission-
Cover# 3950306
Pat# 8088336
Stamp PO426
End Cap Cover by Bearing 3915020
_8833_C
Tail Shaft Housing-

3857584 GM Muncie
On stamp - Two 5’s back to back with 4 to side with two dots
Other Stamp – CM/2
Water Pump-

F28-70 GM43969811 TX
Rear Axle/Differential-

12- bolt
BL 1212G2
Differential-

GM53
3894860N
12345
6789
Crank Shaft-

7115
1965-69 427 Forged Steel
Main Journal – 1-4 : 2.7495
5 : 2.7488
Rod – 2.20
Stroke 3.76
Pistons-

L2239N
427/430 HP ZL1 Option
Impact Extruded Alloy Alum.
Slipper Skirt
Oilring Depth .23
Floating Pin
Weight 28.99
Piston Rods-

.365 Rod Bolt
7/16 Threads
Floating Pins

12C is to early for it to be a COPO. Its a big block, assuming the tag is real. Check your fuel lines. One fuel line = L78, 2 fuel lines = L34 or L35.

The CE is an warranty replacement engine. However, the heads are dated almost a year after the block. I'd say someone has pieced this motor together. Also, with the block dated June '74, I doubt your Camaro was still under warranty 5 1/2 years after manufacture. Sounds like you've got some good parts, but I doubt this engine is the one GM would have used if the original motor would have needed replaced under warranty.

Oh, well bummer on the COPO. The original owner had friends at a dealership and probably had access to a lot of stuff.

How many X-22's were built in 1969?

Thanks!

12C is to early for it to be a COPO. Its a big block, assuming the tag is real. Check your fuel lines. One fuel line = L78, 2 fuel lines = L34 or L35.

So, how many fuel lines??

I was told originally it had one fuel line, but the owner added a 2nd line. Probably when it was swapped to the CE 454.

This would have been done at the dealer, so I dont know what there work would like like. But this hardly looks jury rigged. It looks original to my untrained eyes.

http://home.satx.rr.com/warpgate/images/FuelLines.jpg

Check the fuel line clips....if the vapor return line is jury rigged, and the supply clips look original, and are for single fuel line, that's an indicator L-78.

Alternator for L-78 (and COPO) is 34 amp 834. A 63 amp alternator was used for A/C cars.

The 3.07 (BL) axle you have wasn't one of the standard configurations on the L78 or L89 with the manual transmission. Going by the date code of 1212 (December 12th), I'd say it's probably original. Get the casting date on the pumpkin to make sure.

The 3.07 axle was standard on the L35 and optional on the L34, so I would guess it probably left the factory with one of these two engines.

Ed

Picture looks like 2 fuel lines to me?

I bet your right and they just were swapping parts left and right. I would have no qualms about buying a new camaro and bastardizing it. Back in 69 and 70s with street racing here in Texas, that was the thing to do. Now take a look at this pic of the trim tag and tell me if you think its legit please. Or what I can do to tell without screwing it up of course. Does seeing the casting date on the pumkin require removing it or just the cover?

http://home.satx.rr.com/warpgate/images/TrimTag1.jpg
Pic x-posted to the other thread about this car

Tim, the tag is real and lines up with your VIN. The pumpkin date code is located on the upper drivers side corner, looking from the back of the car to the front. It will be in a letter-number-number configuration where the letter is the month, the 1st number is the day and the 2nd number is the year.

HERE'S A LINK (http://www.camaros.org/drivetrain.shtml#RearAxleNumbers) to the CRG showing where the number is located.

Ed

The casting on the differential is 3894860N date code is B 6 7, Had to keep looking, lots of cob webs.

Something doesn't add up. The casting date indicates February 6th, 1967 but your axle assembly code date shows December 12th. It's not possible to cast the pumpkin after the axle has been assembled, and I don't believe an axle would have sat around for 10 months before being assembled. Recheck all your axle codes again. It may be BL0212G2 instead of BL122G2. If so, that lines up, but the axle wasn't installed in your car from the factory. In 1967 the BL code wasn't even used so again, recheck all your numbers.

Ed

I had to take the car to a storage place today. Theres no room in my garage. I will try to get the numbers again as soon as possible.

Something doesn't add up. The casting date indicates February 6th, 1967 but your axle assembly code date shows December 12th. It's not possible to cast the pumpkin after the axle has been assembled, and I don't believe an axle would have sat around for 10 months before being assembled.
Ed

Make that 22 months not 10, and it should have mono leaf perches with that casting date for a 67 Camaro.
No way that rear is original if you have read the dates correctly.

Timothy has more pics in this thread http://www.camaros.net/forums/showthread.php?t=117647

The rear looks like it might have mono perches.

OK I guess I was reading it upside down. Its not B 6 7 its L 9 8 Lol im such a newb I didnt even realize how much of a newb I was until I got involved with this car.:o

But I sure am glad you all are willing to help a guy out! :hurray:

Honestly for the past few months anytime anyone says anything to me all I hear is "1969 Camaro 1969 Camaro 1969 Camaro...." Im Camaro blind. I need a 12 step program, well maybe 13.

Cheers!