I was looking through some threads and saw something I wanna ask about. I borrowed this pic from Djd, thanks Dennis. I pointed an arrow at where I thought was where the back seat slid into. I think I'm seeing bolts screwed in there, are you supposed to bolt in the bottom of the back seat to that? If so, mine wasn't installed like that. That would explain why the back seat wouldn't sit flush at the top.

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Yes - the back rest of the back seat has two wire loops. One loop for each side. Take out the two bolts and large washers (where you have the arrows pointing). Slide the top of the back rest in place - the loops should line up with the bolt holes - and then loosely screw the bolts in. Then replace the seat portion of the back seat and tighten the two bolts up. If you don't leave them loose when you put the seat portion in - you will have a hard time getting it all to fit easily. (or at least this was the issue I had).

Yes - the back rest of the back seat has two wire loops. One loop for each side. Take out the two bolts and large washers (where you have the arrows pointing). Slide the top of the back rest in place - the loops should line up with the bolt holes - and then loosely screw the bolts in. Then replace the seat portion of the back seat and tighten the two bolts up. If you don't leave them loose when you put the seat portion in - you will have a hard time getting it all to fit easily. (or at least this was the issue I had).

So do the arms coming from the seat frame go inside the bracket that's welded to the body? Or between the bracket & washer?

Between the bracket and washer. Not inside the bracket.

Between the bracket and washer. Not inside the bracket.

That's makes a lot more sense. I knew something wasn't right. I thought maybe I had the wrong back seat or something. Thanks for the info! :beers:

Does anyone know what sized bolt those are?

I think I hung the seat on the upper hooks as I inserted the wire loop into the bracket and then install the bolts. I don't know if this is right or wrong.

I also tighten the seat back in place before installing the seat bottom. I can't see fighting to get a wrench or socket on the bolts once the bottom is in place. If the seat back isn't resting (hanging) on the bottom of the upper hooks it would seem loose if you pulled and pushed on it away from the trunk area..

I think I hung the seat on the upper hooks as I inserted the wire loop into the bracket and then install the bolts. I don't know if this is right or wrong.

I also tighten the seat back in place before installing the seat bottom. I can't see fighting to get a wrench or socket on the bolts once the bottom is in place. If the seat back isn't resting (hanging) on the bottom of the upper hooks it would seem loose if you pulled and pushed on it away from the trunk area..

So when you say wire loop, is that the two arms coming off the seat frame? If anyone has a pic of the wire loop in question that would help a lot.

The bottom of the seat back uses a steel rod bent in a U shape (like the seat frame) that extends below the lower portion of the seat back on each side. That's what I refer to as a wire loop. I'm sure that is the same thing you describe as arms...

A socket extension and a knee on the seat bottom will make accessing the bolts easy. I have found in the convertibles that if you dont leave them a bit loose - when you put in the seat bottom it makes it hard to get the front of the seat bottom over the hooks on the floor pan. Once the seat bottom is in, then just press down on the seat back and it will drop another 1/2 inch into place.

By leaving the bottom bolts loose you can hang the seat back, but still have some play in it to get the seat bottom in. JMO

A socket extension and a knee on the seat bottom will make accessing the bolts easy. I have found in the convertibles that if you dont leave them a bit loose - when you put in the seat bottom it makes it hard to get the front of the seat bottom over the hooks on the floor pan. Once the seat bottom is in, then just press down on the seat back and it will drop another 1/2 inch into place.

By leaving the bottom bolts loose you can hang the seat back, but still have some play in it to get the seat bottom in. JMO

Thanks for the info Craig. :thumbsup: Any idea what size those bolts should be?

The screws are a 1/4-14 x 7/8 with a 7/16 hex head and a 1" toothed washer per the AMK book. Mine fit that description except the washer is larger and not toothed...

Oh and it's all you guys faults I have my back seat tore out of the car right now. Thanks :thumbsup: I needed to fix the top well liner where it was coming loose and this got me motovated... And I can say now I didn't have my lower seat back connectors in behind the bracket... :beers:

now I just need to find my 3M upholstery glue. :clonk:

The screws are a 1/4-14 x 7/8 with a 7/16 hex head and a 1" toothed washer per the AMK book. Mine fit that description except the washer is larger and not toothed...

Oh and it's all you guys faults I have my back seat tore out of the car right now. Thanks :thumbsup: I needed to fix the top well liner where it was coming loose and this got me motovated... And I can say now I didn't have my lower seat back connectors in behind the bracket... :beers:

now I just need to find my 3M upholstery glue. :clonk:

Thanks Dennis! :thumbsup: I'm sorry you had to pull your seat to look, but sounds like you had to anyways. Thanks again. :beers:

No problem Jason - the top well needs the attention and this just got me off my butt.. If you don't have an AMK Catalog you should get one even if you just use it for hardware identification...

www.amkproducts.com

No problem Jason - the top well needs the attention and this just got me off my butt.. If you don't have an AMK Catalog you should get one even if you just use it for hardware identification...

www.amkproducts.com

Thanks for the link Dennis. :thumbsup: I'm gonna pick one fo those up asap. :beers:

A socket extension and a knee on the seat bottom will make accessing the bolts easy. I have found in the convertibles that if you dont leave them a bit loose - when you put in the seat bottom it makes it hard to get the front of the seat bottom over the hooks on the floor pan. Once the seat bottom is in, then just press down on the seat back and it will drop another 1/2 inch into place.

By leaving the bottom bolts loose you can hang the seat back, but still have some play in it to get the seat bottom in. JMO

In production, it took about ten seconds for each part (back and cushion) - hang the seat back on the hooks at the top, the loops at the bottom sit on top of the hat-section brackets, drive the two bolts. Done. Then hold the belts up out of the way, jam the cushion in place, hook behind the front brackets, done.

:beers:

And leaving the middle seatbelt under the bottom cushion sure looks better too. How often does anyone carry more than four people? Last time I did it was 1969 when I was showing friends how fast my car was and how good my brakes worked.