My name is teri and I would like to know if anyone knows much about the 1969 z-10 pace cars . any history would be welcome as we are going to sell ours and I thought I would try to find some history on it. thanks teri:thumbsup:

Teri,

You came to the right place--we have some major experts here that can walk you through the Z-10.

What are you planning to ask for your car?

Can you provide more information on your car (history, options) and pictures for the group?

Brent

http://www.camaros.org/69pacer.shtml

yes the z-10 was bought at friendly chevrolet in dallas texas in 1969 by my husband. the cowl tag is 1234 nor 313820 tr 712 50/50 04c z-10/ the motor was replaced with a 400 out of a 73 monte carlo and it has a 3 speed saganaw transmission other wise everything else is the original. i posted picture of it on camaropacecars.com and i don't know how to post the photos they posted them for me. the car still runs great and can be driven on the streets. it is reg as a classic car with the state. the vin is 124379n634074. we are asking 45,000 for the car which i know is less but because of the motor. i am hoping to sell to a camaro love as my husband loves the car. it is like part of our family. smile. I could e-mail you the pictures. thanks teri.

did the information I gave you help? thanks teri.

Teri -

Welcome to Team Camaro! Too bad you're here looking for info to help sell a familiy member :):)

There's quite a bit of discussion in past threads here on the Z10s. If you search "Z-10" and also "Z10", you'll find a lot of reading.

Here's the link to Teri's thread over at camaropacecars.com:

http://camaropacecars.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/4650034463/m/1840090715

As you can probably guess, I have a Z10. I would be happy to help in whatever way possible.

my husband turned 65 and just had surgery for cancer and we are to start cemo soon so you see he wants to sell to someone who will keep it going. we are just not able to take care of it any more so you see it not like getting rid of a family member its giving it a chance to go on. smile. teri

just to let you know it came with a 350 high performance motor and it does have original air. it has a hard top. no rust. has paint replaced with original color. metal bumpers. teri

I was just funnin with you :) Sorry you have to sell, and certainly sympathies for the reasons behind the sale. Hopefully someone can give her a home!

you know someone offer me 25,000 to 30,000 for the car and i came down to 40 do you think I should hold firm? I know it is worth it and I may have to go to e-bay to sell it.thanks

Teri. sorry to hear of the reason for selling your Camaro.

If we can help, just send the photos and information to members@camaros.net and we will put up a free photo classified ad for you. This site receives a lot of traffic to the classifieds and perhaps we can save you the auction commission.

Al & Dot

You've got a one owner, all original (ex paint and wheels from your pictures), Z10. I don't think its necessary to come down any lower than 40K absolutely rock bottom, unless you need the cash in the next couple of days or weeks). Do you or your husband still have any of the original paperwork, things like the window sticker, owners manual with the warranty protecto plate all add value to the car. 45K isn't out of line. Fall is a tough time to sell an older car, as people have to find a place to store them for the winter, the market will be better in the spring(assuming gas isn't 5 bucks a gallon by then).

thank you al and dot I will send the photos today.Teri

thank you for your reply and support. no my husband never dreamed the paperwork would be needed later in life. teri

Teri,

What happened to the original engine? Is all of the sheet metal original? Any Rust?

Jody, you know a Z10 cruising Kutztown would be cool...

our son replaced the engine for his dad to what he told his dad was a better one which now we know not to be true. there is no rust on the car. there was a little surface rust that was taken care of when we repainted. the headliner was order from the camaro part and replaced. we could not find someone to re-sew the other one. teri

did you get the pictures and info? teri

Terri,

I'm in Lewisville and I know several other local 1st gen Camaro owners. If I or any of the folks I know can help you please let me know, I will do whatever I can to help you find your car a good home. BTW, my name is Mark.

Jody, you know a Z10 cruising Kutztown would be cool...

That it would........are you from K-Town?

Nope, down the road in Chester Co. My son loves Crystal Cave, and I had buddies went to KU, so I get out that way now and then.

Teri. Not sure if you are getting our emails. We received text, but no photo(s).

Al

Al, tried to send the pictures again. hope they came through, not very good at pictures and computers. teri

Teri,
Got em this time. Here is a link to your ad:

http://www.camaros.net/classifieds/photoads/barnes1007/index.html

thank you she look so good. the way you did it look great. thanks again. teri

You've got a one owner, all original (ex paint and wheels from your pictures), Z10. I don't think its necessary to come down any lower than 40K absolutely rock bottom, unless you need the cash in the next couple of days or weeks). Do you or your husband still have any of the original paperwork, things like the window sticker, owners manual with the warranty protecto plate all add value to the car. 45K isn't out of line. Fall is a tough time to sell an older car, as people have to find a place to store them for the winter, the market will be better in the spring(assuming gas isn't 5 bucks a gallon by then).


Mark , Did you miss that it had a NOM motor and a saginaw three speed ? I think 40K would be a lot for that car.

jody those pic are from last year. the car still looks the same i will make new one. but i took them with one of those instant cameras so i could scan them in that is the way i knew to get them on. i will take some pictures with my brothers camera it uses disc and see if they are better. teri.

I did find some info on the z-10
Q: What are Pace Car Camaros? A: In both 1967 and 1969 the Camaro was chosen as the Pace Car for the famous Indy 500 car race. Two Camaros were special-built to serve as the actual Pace Car for the race (the second was a back-up), and a number of look-alike Pace Cars, termed festival cars, served for use by dignitaries at the track. Along with the two literal Pace Cars and the festival cars Chevy offered Pace Car replicas to dealers for sale to the public. Pace Cars, festival cars, and replicas were always SS/RS Convertible Camaros, with either 350ci or 396ci engines. In '67, the color scheme was a white Camaro with blue 'bumble bee' stripe (around the nose), blue deluxe interior, and a white convertible top. In '69, the pace car was white, with Hugger Orange Z-28-style stripes, cowl-induction hood, special Hugger Orange interior, and a white convertible top.
The 1969 Pace Car replica was denoted by a Z11 code on the cowl trim tag. Shortly after the Z11 was produced there was also a special run of '69 Camaros called the Z10, which is believed to be a regional promotional item for certain southwestern and mid-western states. The Z10 was similarly equipped to '69 Z11 Pace Car replica, but was a hardtop instead of convertible. There were no production records retained but it is commonly believed that somewhere between 200 and 300 of the Z10 cars were built at the Norwood plant between 3rd week of April (04C) and 1st week of May (05A), possibly longer. Some of the cars have a 04L date code (which has also been seen on other cars of this period - believed to be a factory stamping/die error). All known Z10 cars have a Z10 code on the cowl tag. A little more flexibility in ordering options has been observed in Z10s, as other interior colors besides the orange houndstooth could be ordered.

The two 1969 pace cars (#1 and #2) had L78 396ci (375 HP) engines. They started out with L89 aluminum-heads, but were changed to the baseline cast iron heads due to durability concerns. The engines were handbuilt and blueprinted by engineering (though within factory specifications) and critical drivetrain and suspension parts were penetrant inspected for cracks. A heavy-duty service 4-wheel disc brake axle (not the same as the JL8 option) with a 3.31 ratio was added along with 15x7-inch rally wheels sporting Goodyear Wide Tread GT tires. Other special requirements included balancing the driveshaft and inclusion of a heavy-duty battery and a 63-amp alternator. teri

teri that is pretty much common info. from www.camaros.org who have documented most of that information.
The Z10 is not a 'hardtop' pace car but a special car built for dealers as noted in that information. Over the years folklore has termed the Z10 as a pace car related vehicle but it was not. It had some similarities but could be ordered with many different options and there wasnt a 'standard' Z10 that dealers had to take. They could order different engines, interiors and options which they could not do with the pace cars per se. The Z10 is a unique car and estimates now place them at closer to 800 made as more information has come into CRG (camaros research group).
Id love to own one but then I like all camaros. :)

http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t32/z10kl/autofair2.jpg
Teri, My Z10 was shipped to the Dallas zone office, and was later sold thruogh a Dallas dealer. Does your husband remember any others at the time he got his? My vin number is about 1500 before yours.

I will have to ask him this evening. that look just like the one we have except our interior is black. I see now I need to take some new pictures so they will be brighter and show the shine your does. teri

that is were i got the info. i was just so excited to find something on my own. thanks teri

Jody, will let you know if I put on e-bay. a guy ask me to wait till he saw it this saturday. he think we are close in price and he really wants it. i need to thank al and dot they sure help me. if something happens i will let you know. thank again. teri

al and dot i just want to thank you for helping my husband and I. we do have a very serious man coming to look at the camaro this weekend and he said we are close in price. I know not to get my hopes up . but with the cost of the kemo you can't help but do that. smile. if he doesn't buy it we are thinking about going ahead and posting on e-bay. that way we will have it posted two place here and there. anyway thanks again and I will let you know what happens. teri

al and dot,well we didn't sell the camaro. the guy wanted to put down 20,000. and we carry the balance of 25,000 for him. i know how hard it is to find a car once you let someone take it. we had to say no.so i guess i will put on e-bay and try that. teri

Jody, the guy came and look at the camaro. he wanted it very bad. but he wanted to put down 20,000 and for us to carry the note for 25,000. we had to say no because i know we might never find the car if he didn't pay. so i am going to put on e-bay and will send you the numbers. thanks teri.

al and dot I need to lower the price to 38,500 on the z-10. my husbands chemo is costing quite a bit and i am the only one working. so I need to lower the price and don't know how. thanks teri

Done Teri. Hope that helps.

i do have some new pictures under the hood , inside the car and the trunk. would that help on the sale? and a new picture head on up close. teri

did they sell them with black interior?..i thought they were always white?..or am thinking of the Z-11's ?

yes, the seat are covered with a seat racing seat cover the original is underneath. but they are black and original. teri

yes they came with black. the seat covers you see are the racing seat cover the grandkids gave us for christmas last year. but the originals are underneath those. teri

in fact i called my husband and they are black houndtooth, he said the front are not in very good shape but the back or in real good shape. teri

Dot or Al, I got a a company in Las Vegas who call themselves sell it now motors and they used to be called I Trust Motors. they want $299.00 to list our car they say that it will sell in 30 days if not all money we have paid is refunded to us. do you know anything about this company? they say they are very big in the classic cars. thanks teri barnes

Eric, I got a a company in Las Vegas who call themselves sell it now motors and they used to be called I Trust Motors. they want $299.00 to list our car they say that it will sell in 30 days if not all money we have paid is refunded to us. do you know anything about this company? they say they are very big in the classic cars. thanks teri barnes