Guys, I'm trying to put Koni shocks in the rear of my car. I have a 12 bolt w/a dbl bracket plate. Of course, the old shock fit between the 2 plates, but the Koni has one stud sticking out at the bottom, and this stud is bigger in dia, than either of the 2 holes in the brackets. How much will this cost me, and no, I can't weld and don't have a welder anyway :D

The Koni with the stud is for multi leaf springs,...but if you have a 12 bolt I would expect multi's. Sounds like the wrong plate is on the bottm of the springs. The multi spring plate uses uses a single bracket, in place of the double bracket used on mono leaf plates.

mono plate pic - http://www.drclassic.com/catalog/Camaro/Suspension/K00040-M.html

multi plate pic - http://www.drclassic.com/catalog/Camaro/Suspension/K00040-R.html

i replace mine with these from DSE...
http://www.detroitspeed.com/productpages/indproduct/rearsuspensionprod/lower_shock_plates_prod_test.htm

Yep, it appears I have mono plates welded on the 12 bolt. Damn it.....every friggin' project I run into something like this. Thanks, guys.

where is your shock mounting to? the bottom plate as they should.if you got a 68 or 69 you got staggered shocks. the bottom plate as you describe is for a 67 with both shocks in front of axle. 67 used thru bolts while a 68-69 used studs and 1 hole or bracket as you say it. look in ss396 part number njx-283 and see if that is your bottom plate for spring.if you need them i got a pair for you. brand new both for 40 bux.

Kevin, no welding here, the shock plates bolt on, with the u-bolts that hole the rear axle in place, they are repro-ed, easy fix.

where is your shock mounting to? the bottom plate as they should.if you got a 68 or 69 you got staggered shocks. the bottom plate as you describe is for a 67 with both shocks in front of axle. 67 used thru bolts while a 68-69 used studs and 1 hole or bracket as you say it. look in ss396 part number njx-283 and see if that is your bottom plate for spring.if you need them i got a pair for you. brand new both for 40 bux.

My plates are staggered, but there for mono leaf shocks. If I understand you correctly, the pair you have for $40 are the single stud shocks...one hole on the plate? If so, you probably have a deal.

Kevin, no welding here, the shock plates bolt on, with the u-bolts that hole the rear axle in place, they are repro-ed, easy fix. I knew the plates bolted on :), I was wishful thinking there'd be a way to mount the shocks I have with the plates I have...but it ain't gonna work.

dbx ill get pics of the staggered shocks with the 1 arm or bracket as you call it. and get a pic of a 67 with 2 arms as you call it.also ill measure the hole in the 68-69 shock hole.

dbx ill get pics of the staggered shocks with the 1 arm or bracket as you call it. and get a pic of a 67 with 2 arms as you call it.also ill measure the hole in the 68-69 shock hole.


Very good. If by staggered you mean; on one side the shock mounts from the front of the wheel...and the other side is opposite? That's what I have....but again, it shouldn't be! I have mono leaf plates and I shouldn't.

if you get a pic of your trunk where your shocks mount. it will tell it all they will be even or passenger will be back farther than drivers side.

Here's a pic of the shock. And yes, the passenger side is further toward the front than the other side. I was simply using the front'rear of wheels for reference...same thing :).

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v509/dbx/Shock.jpg

It was pointed out to me that some repro shock plates for multi leaf are not made correctly, and that they need to be "altered"/bent in order for the shock to align correctly (DjD showed me a pic of both correct and non-correct).

I need some help/clarification with shock plates. As previously mentioned, I have a 12 bolt, multi leaf springs, but have mono shock plates. My passenger side shock mounts from the front of the rear wheel...to a location in the trunk that is further back than the driver's side shock location...of which the shock mounts to the rear side of the tire.

So, I look on Rick's and see repro plates for $34 each http://www.rickscamaros.com/product.asp?pf%5Fid=SS%2D42&dept%5Fid=3510 that say they'll fit left or right, but in the pic there is clearly a "ridge oriented" side to the plate shown (maybe just a standard pic?). But Rick's also sell "laser exact repro" plates for $41 http://www.rickscamaros.com/product.asp?pf%5Fid=SS%2D144&dept%5Fid=3510 that you have to choose left & right.

To further complicate this, DjD told me that some repro plates don't have the shock "tab" angled/bent correctly, and that the single stud shock type will not position properly, causing the shock stud to tilt badly in the shock bushing.

So, considering my trunk shock locations, I'm inclined to think I need to buy the left & right plates that Rick's sells. But will these plates be positioned in the proper place to accommodate my trunk locations? I hope I've confused you all :). I'm not sure if my trunk holes are standard for any 69', or if they were specific to some bodies? I would think the former, but.....

I like my DSE plates. I can take a pic this weekend if you'd like. I posted a link previously.

Kevin-

The 68-69 staggered shock plates will fit either side. You just spin them 180*

The 67 plates are side specific.

There might be some screwy little detail on why they differentiate between R & L on the spendier set, probably for a "correct" purist restoration or something. Or it could be a typo?

If you buy the repros and don't like the angle, just put them in the old bench vise and persuade them a bit. I know you have a big hammer.

Your trunk shock mounts are correct.

I like my DSE plates. I can take a pic this weekend if you'd like. I posted a link previously.

Thanks, Steve. I recall seeing the pics/link you posted.

Kevin-

The 68-69 staggered shock plates will fit either side. You just spin them 180*

The 67 plates are side specific.

There might be some screwy little detail on why they differentiate between R & L on the spendier set, probably for a "correct" purist restoration or something. Or it could be a typo?

If you buy the repros and don't like the angle, just put them in the old bench vise and persuade them a bit. I know you have a big hammer.

Your trunk shock mounts are correct.

For some damn reason, it took me a while to visualize how you could turn the plate 180* and it work for either side. The 70's have taken their toll. And yes, I like to use that sledgehammer.

I don't have time to drive to Ricks, but I should be able to get them tomorrow if I order today....and I think that's just what I'll do.

Thanks, guys.

Kevin - Maybe Dan's upper shock mounts in the trunk were replaced causing the mis-alignment, I don't know. He got one plate from Rick's and one from Classic and had problems. Here's the thread I got the pic I PM'd you... http://www.camaros.net/forums/showthread.php?t=111308&highlight=bad+shock+plates