View Full Version : Will Metal 2 Metal stay in a small hole?


Eric Kammerer
Nov 12th, 07, 08:38 AM
In pulling out the dents on my lower tail pan, I burned through in one place, about two stud widths (less than a pinky tip oblong hole). I can't get to the back to put a spoon against it and just weld it shut with, and rather than trying to just set the MIG real low and fill it from the front side (and probably just keep chasing it wider), I think I am just going to fill it.

I have Metal 2 Metal here, and I was wondering if it will last long term in that kind of hole, or whether I need to run out and get some Everglass short strand fiber filler. Thoughts?

Eric Kammerer
Nov 12th, 07, 08:41 AM
Okay, it's two holes...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v239/ekammerer/Picture370.jpg

KevinW
Nov 12th, 07, 09:55 AM
Eric, there was a post about making a backer plate for blind welding re-enforment. Basically you cut a slit in the panel and took a retangle of sheet metal and looped som welding wire through it. Then you put the retangle in the slot, pulled on the welding wire to put the patch tight in the back, then welded the patch to the back of the slot at the ends. Then you can fill the slot using the patch as a base and the welding wire would just melt. Pretty neat.

Eric Kammerer
Nov 12th, 07, 10:41 AM
I'm trying not to cut anything though. I guess if anything, I could open up between the two holes and feed a little patch through there.

What I NEED to do is get a repro tailpan, cut the bottom off behind the bumper, and do the same to the car, then graft the straight bottom to my car. That would also solve some issues with how the lower tail meets the lower quarter on the driver side. Mentally though, I'm not sure I can do that (seems like a pretty good step back), plus I'd have to drive to pick up the repro tailpan.

On the upside, I'd have the section around the taillights to hang on the wall....

1969ss
Nov 12th, 07, 11:14 AM
http://www.1969supersport.com/blweld.html

Rob

JimM
Nov 12th, 07, 03:04 PM
those are lil holes, Eric, turn down the heat and weld em up.

jus4funn68
Nov 12th, 07, 04:55 PM
I agree with Jim, I wouldn't even think of replacing the pan for those little holes. The small one looks like a piece of 3/32 tig wire stuck in the hole and then hit it with the mig would fill it ok. Probably do the same thing twice and fill the bigger one. Ive done it dozens of times. Stick the tig wire through the hole a little ways, lean it over to fill most of the hole, and put a little pressure on it to hold it in place, squirt it with your mig and you should be good to go! Kevin

Eric Kammerer
Nov 12th, 07, 04:57 PM
I'm going to try tomorrow, if I can get a good ground on one of the studs. The only thing I'm afraid of is that the metal seems to be stretched right there, pretty thin. I only held the stud gun on there for less than 1 sec as recommended, and that's what I got.

That's what happens when a no-talent, no-love gearhead wannabe moves a solid 69 around with a forklift....the dents that I'm pulling out with the studs, that's why I was thinking of replacing the pan.

FFRiccio
Nov 12th, 07, 07:45 PM
Eric, there was a post about making a backer plate for blind welding re-enforment. Basically you cut a slit in the panel and took a retangle of sheet metal and looped som welding wire through it. Then you put the retangle in the slot, pulled on the welding wire to put the patch tight in the back, then welded the patch to the back of the slot at the ends. Then you can fill the slot using the patch as a base and the welding wire would just melt. Pretty neat.

This is why I love this site! I never would have thought of this and I can't wait to try it.

As far as your holes, Eric, I would weld them up gently from the front. I have welded bigger holes than that without any problems. Of course, the final decision is yours. Good luck with whatever you choose.