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$90K for a full running 1 of 6 Hemi 302! wow!

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A fool and his money are soon parted.

I'm sure he has at least 7 more.

If I had an extra 90,000 laying around I'd by it in a Heartbeat!!!!!!!!!!!

Whadya think he had to give Rick for it? Maybe thats how Rick retired.:D

Hmmm.. listing is gone.

I saw this listing around a year ago.....

those heartbeat city folks are extremely proud of their stuff, that is for sure.

IMO, he offers this rare stuff at higher than market for several reasons. (remember the ZL-1 for $1.4 million?)
1. Cheap advertising that he has rare stuff
2. Maybe some fool will buy it
3. If not, it may cause people to believe the prices on rare stuff is going up.

If I had an extra 90,000 laying around I'd by it in a Heartbeat!!!!!!!!!!!

It is sad to say, but so would I. Imagine having it in a car at your local car show. He he.

Look at their ebay store they list the Hemi 302 for $9.99 , thats a good deal!

They have a strange way of doing buisness.
I was trying to buy an item from them that was about $100.00 part and was listed in their
ebay store for $900.00 now same part is $9.99

Maybe his keyboard is broken and only his 9 key works?

I tried to email them and never got a straight answer so bought from another vendor.

Look at their ebay store they list the Hemi 302 for $9.99 , thats a good deal!

They have a strange way of doing buisness.
I was trying to buy an item from them that was about $100.00 part and was listed in their
ebay store for $900.00 now same part is $9.99

Maybe his keyboard is broken and only his 9 key works?

I tried to email them and never got a straight answer so bought from another vendor.

They told me they would stop doing business with me because I sent them a couple of email quite critical....

They ended several auctions early because the bids were not there... they even ended two auctions that had several bids on them.."item no longer available for sale". I let them know what I thought about that.

I later asked if they were going to cut an auction short PRIOR to my bidding... they were NOT impressed with the tone of my query!

They showed up again for auction a week later! I managed to get the GM front spoiler and a few other items. All as advertised. Harrison reproduction rad very nice etc.

Prices are VERY aggressive on some items. Other times you can get something reasonable. They do have a very nice store near Detroit with a great display area.

Talked to them about their $800.00 oil filter... apparently they are having trouble with their ebay listings. I'd like to buy that engine also but $90K is more of an advertising thing I think.

This is an item for those who God is trying to tell they make too much money :D

They closed an auction early, when I was high bidder...I think it was an endura load rest. Anyway, I quizzed them via email, told them the "appearance" was that they ended auctions if they did not like the way the bidding was going, and asked waht they thought eBay would think if that practice. They responded that they often sell the last of an item in their store, and then have to close the auction, and that's what happened in my case. They added they did not appreciate my "threatening tone". I responded that I was not trying to threaten them, but found the practice odd. Asked that when they got a new supply, would they sell to me at my high bid....of course, no response. Two days later, the item was back on ebay, so I emailed and simply said, "Boy Jim, you sure got these back in stock in a hurry." Of course, no response from them.

They might be a good company and Jim might be a good guy. I've been in his old shop, and talked with him at one of the Yenko reunionsl and he was very nice. But I don't approve of Heartbeat's antics, so even though they offer some pretty rare stuff, and some reportedly accurate repops, I won't buy from them.

maybe he is like the Seinfeld soup nazi guy...NO CAMARO PARTS FOR YOU! :)

maybe he is like the Seinfeld soup nazi guy...NO CAMARO PARTS FOR YOU! :)

Not that there's anything wrong with that :cool:

This past spring/summer when I was looking for a trunk lid I did a google search about heartbeat as I had read some things that were a bit discerning about them. I can't recall the exact words I typed in...something like 'Heartbeat city'' trunk lid ' and maybe something else...

Anyway, a thread from TC popped up first on the list, it was about 2-3 years old and man let me tell you there were some very upset people towards HC not only about the trunk lid they sell but their return practices.

I read enough to steer me away from them.

I too have been very curious as to how they run their auctions.

maybe he is like the Seinfeld soup nazi guy...NO CAMARO PARTS FOR YOU! :)

LOL!!!!!!!!! That's classic!!!!

I can't say anything bad about Heartbeat City or Jim. I just recently won an auction for a set of 4 leaf springs for $203 plus $46.50 for shipping. I think I got one hell of a good deal!!!! I have purchased some large $$$$$ items and have not had any trouble with returns or speaking with Jim. He is a little hard to get sometimes.

Won't disagree with all the posted ebay issues, return policy etc but I buy nearly all of my parts there.

I'm fortunate to have my orig drivetrain, and restored my car with used or NOS parts. HBC is great source for hard to find items. I believe there are posts indicating that as well!

They closed an auction early, when I was high bidder...I think it was an endura load rest. Anyway, I quizzed them via email, told them the "appearance" was that they ended auctions if they did not like the way the bidding was going, and asked waht they thought eBay would think if that practice. They responded that they often sell the last of an item in their store, and then have to close the auction, and that's what happened in my case. They added they did not appreciate my "threatening tone". I responded that I was not trying to threaten them, but found the practice odd. Asked that when they got a new supply, would they sell to me at my high bid....of course, no response. Two days later, the item was back on ebay, so I emailed and simply said, "Boy Jim, you sure got these back in stock in a hurry." Of course, no response from them.

They might be a good company and Jim might be a good guy. I've been in his old shop, and talked with him at one of the Yenko reunionsl and he was very nice. But I don't approve of Heartbeat's antics, so even though they offer some pretty rare stuff, and some reportedly accurate repops, I won't buy from them.

Heartbeat just closed an auction on me, I was the only bidder @$9.99 and they closed it within the last 20 hours with "error in the minimum bid" :( Since it is a repro part, I doubt they sold out :) Heartbeat has closed or ended early all auctions (around 70) since 11-25. Ebay still charges right?

You best bet is to skip eBay hassles and just go directly to the store at heartbeatcity.net (http://heartbeatcity.net)

Some eBay auction formats where being changed around during that time, sorry you had to go thru that mess. :(

You best bet is to skip eBay hassles and just go directly to the store at heartbeatcity.net (http://heartbeatcity.net)

Some eBay auction formats where being changed around during that time, sorry you had to go thru that mess. :(

Huh? So you say Heartbeat did not close the auctions. but some format glitch caused the ones with low bids to mysteriously close?

Where'd I leave my turnip truck?

Happened to me AGAIN last week. Bid on a driveshaft. Bid closed on me "error in reserve" Has happened a lot. As Jim says " in America it is his right to close auctions early" Right now they are not too happy with me because I usually email with my 'opinion'

:p

OK I went there. A cross ram intake, repop, $4995.00 ???? Two piece and screws, snowflake. Where is my turnip wagon. This cain't take more work to make than a 1 piece air gap type. What am I missing here? Is here something inside?
Tom

I don't fault them for selling at whatever price they choose. It's our choice whether or not to buy. My problem lies in their ebay auction tactics. Jim threw the "within ebay rules" bull at me too, but I seriously doubt ebay is aware of his real tactics. ie closing auctions due to low activity or low price. My feeling is if you want to play the "no reserve" game in order to avoid reserve fees, then you are accepting the possibility that you will not get the price that you want.

I have always wondered how he gets more for his stuff than the next guy. I am suspicious of his private listings. Sometimes you need to deal with him. Anytime there has been a problem he has backed his parts.

Here is the thread I was writing about earlier-makes one think twice about buying parts from HBC-

http://www.camaros.net/forums/archive/index.php/t-60973.html

Here is the thread I was writing about earlier-makes one think twice about buying parts from HBC-

http://www.camaros.net/forums/archive/index.php/t-60973.html
I had a similar experience with his '69 tailpipes. There were flat wrong. I sent him a picture. After two sets I said enough and bought elsewhere. He took them back. I paid return shipping.:sad:

I bought used GM sheet metal parts. My car went back together nice. I would rather hammer out GM parts than try a repro.

Heartbeat just closed an auction on me, I was the only bidder @$9.99 and they closed it within the last 20 hours with "error in the minimum bid" :( Since it is a repro part, I doubt they sold out :) Heartbeat has closed or ended early all auctions (around 70) since 11-25. Ebay still charges right?

Had the same deal happen to me on something I was bidding on with Heartbeat. Sent Jim an email, (it was on a Saturday Night believe or not) and he respond back to me in minutes telling me that he was at the shop doing some paper work, etc. and asked me to call him & sent his number ... So I did. He was a real easy guy to talk to and seemed knowledgeable regarding 1st gen Camaros. He was petty up front with me on how he deals with ebay. Apparently you can close an ebay auction 12 hours before it closes without penalty. Due to ebay's charges and fees (which keep going up) he told me the he does watch items closely and if they look like they are not meeting a price break that he is comfortable with, he will end the auction early. Some items he throws out there at a lower price in the hopes that it will get the bidding started and up to an acceptable number. He went on to explain that he does a ton of business with ebay and they charge him handsomely for that privilege.
Jim took a lot of time talking to me and by the time he finished explaining it all to me, it did make some sense and I had to appreciate his candor. Whether or not I agreed 100% with his way of doing business or not, is another issue. I have to also admit that Heartbeat City is VERY proud of their stuff (price wise)!!
So, in the end, I do think that Jim is a decent guy - But he is a business man first. He does have some nice stuff and a hard to come by items. The repro stuff does seem to some very nice stuff as far as quality and authenticity - fpr the most part. He's looking to make a maximum buck on his items that he has up for sale. Basicly it's ... "I have this part ... Do you want it ... Well it's going to cost you this much."

Such a bargain
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Many members seem to buy stuff from HC. Out of curiosity, especially for those of us on the west coast, why not Classic Industries? I obtained one of their catalogs at a car show and it is the size of a small phone book with tons of stuff. There are several other venders as well.

alan

I think HBC actually makes some of the parts they sell and many vendors buy from them too.

I buy all of my parts from a local first gen distributor, the Camaro Barn, and I have on occasion seen HBC items in his store.

I think HBC makes trunk lids and door hinges and some other things.

Classic Industries has a lot of stuff esp good for modified etc. But when you need stuff that appears original you have to cast a wider net.. and HC has some of that stuff.

They repro'd a Harrison rad and it is probably better than an original rad if you look at it up close.

I believe it has a lot to do with distance. I chose Firewheel as those guys will ship it out quick and its one day service too. And if I have to send it back if its my error, shipping is cheaper. They usually have everything I need 99.9% of the time.

Classic Industries are the fine folks that sell you a "Caution fan" sticker.

Many members seem to buy stuff from HC. Out of curiosity, especially for those of us on the west coast, why not Classic Industries? I obtained one of their catalogs at a car show and it is the size of a small phone book with tons of stuff. There are several other venders as well.

alan

I use to deal with Classic Industries quite a bit several years ago. Their stuff isn't bad and was much chearper the Year One. Their shipping costs is what cooled me on them and made me start to really shop around.

I know I'm beating a dead horse, but I don't blame him for wanting to make a minimum. I just think that's what reserve, or higher starting price is for. He just doesn't want to pay the extra cost of those two options, so he uses a loophole in the ebay policy. In my book, not much different than buying a DVD player at WalMart to watch a movie, then returning it the next day. Technically within WalMart's return policy, but it ain't right.

Do you think he ever closed an auction because someone bid HIGHER than he expected? IT'S AN AUCTION, for God's sake!!!! It's supposed to work both ways. Can you imagine putting a car at BJ and then, if you don't like the way bidding is going, getting up and yelling, "Auction is cancelled!!"

I know I'm beating a dead horse, but I don't blame him for wanting to make a minimum. I just think that's what reserve, or higher starting price is for. He just doesn't want to pay the extra cost of those two options, so he uses a loophole in the ebay policy. In my book, not much different than buying a DVD player at WalMart to watch a movie, then returning it the next day. Technically within WalMart's return policy, but it ain't right.

Do you think he ever closed an auction because someone bid HIGHER than he expected? IT'S AN AUCTION, for God's sake!!!! It's supposed to work both ways. Can you imagine putting a car at BJ and then, if you don't like the way bidding is going, getting up and yelling, "Auction is cancelled!!"

I agree with you 100%. It is a principle issue more than anything. And that is why I refuse to buy anything from the guy. Some people say he is a nice guy and all that, and maybe he is, and he is certainly a shrewd and successful business owner excelling at making money. Canceling auctions, screwing people on returns (allegedly), being rude, and charging outrageous prices are his prerogative. But not buying a damn thing from him is my prerogative, -the consumers hold the power, it's just to bad that most don't see it that way.

Everybody can have a problem with anyone selling anything, from either a retailer or an eBay-er. I believe Jim with Heartbeat is a good businessman and if he has what you want, he'll sell it to you for a fair price, just like sellers on eBay. Like anything else when people need parts for sale that are rare, they'll have to pay a high price. Supply and demand! We have bought parts from Jim at Heartbeat and he's been a man of his word, and if I need something I would not hesitate to contact Jim.

Has any buddy ever been over there to see the place? Been thinking about scoping it out, but it's a 4 hour drive from me.

cap68

Has any buddy ever been over there to see the place? Been thinking about scoping it out, but it's a 4 hour drive from me.

cap68

I was there yesterday to pick up a bunch of stuff I had won on ebay as well as a few items I got from the webstore.

four hour drive for me as well, but worth it because I avoided duty and shipping to my home north of Toronto.

Store is not much to look at. New with everything behind glass display cases. Because not all inventory is on display you could easily leave without buying what you MIGHT be interested in because can only hold so many items on display.

Virtually everything is behind the counter so unless you ask you really don't have an opportunity to pick things up in your hand and evaluate them.

Probably due to high security for the store, but even the spray paint is behind the counter. It is clean and well organized but no-where as much fun as going into a more rustic shop like 'Camaro Specialties' near Buffalo where there is bunch of stuff on floor and used and old and new mixed together and wall displays you can pick stuff off and wander around with the guard dog...