I did a search and didn't quite get the answer I was looking for so I'll ask all the smart people here on Team Camaro.

What basic color was the upper dash, lower dash, top of the doors, and the area below the quarter windows that wraps around the package tray painted on a '67 Camaro w/ Std. Interior? Does it make a difference if the trim tag decodes R-R with 741 for the interior type, or R-R with 760 for the interior type? Also, is the steering column painted the same as the lower dash?

It appears to me that the same spray guns that painted the exterior color painted these areas as well, but maybe with a little less gloss. You would then have red painted surfaces with either the 741 (red) or 760 (black) interior fabric colors. Is this true?

Thanks,

Bryan

Are you going to use a rattle can or ? It seems Semi Gloss matches the best.

OK, but are the interior painted surfaces the same color as the exterior, or the same color as the seats, even if it's not the same color?

I sure everybody does different things when they restore their own vehicle, but what did GM do in this situation at the factory? That is what I am interested in.

Bryan, others here are more informed than I am but I think the paint on the upper dash is a different color than the lower dash and other interior parts. A less glossy paint was used to reduce glare-

The Ditzler refinish pages are pretty useful; unfortunately I can't find 1967 online, but did find 1968. If you read the top of the page, it tells you what surfaces were covered in these colors. Although the interior color codes are not the same between 67 and 68, so at least you can get an idea of what surfaces are painted.

http://www.tcpglobal.com/aclchip.aspx?image=1968-chevrolet-pg02.jpg

If it is a Norwood built car, the top line of the trim tag should have a code for the interior paint color, opposite the production date. Generally, a red interior (741) meant red low gloss interior paint. I haven't seen a red interior car with black paint; the Parchment Custom interior (797) is the only combo that I am aware of that had painted metal surfaces a different color (black) than the seat upholstery (parchment).

I know there is a code difference between 67 black (Ditzler 9248) and 68-69 black (Ditzler 9266); I recall my 67 black having more gloss than this 69, but that was almost 20 years ago and the 67 had about 260K on it by that point. 67 paint may have had more gloss, because the Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standards regarding reflective surfaces (Section 107 of FMVSS) was made law in February of 1967.

Now, as far as what is correct, you'd have to check with TPC or someone else for the Ditzler codes for 1967. I think TPC probably has the info, just hasn't posted it on their site.

Hmmm, good info.

My car is an LOS car so no extra codes. It is also Granada Gold with 709 gold interior and it is not an attractive color at all. I am not interested in painting it the stock color anyways, my car is way too far from stock for that to matter. I am still interested in how the factory would have painted the car so even my 'custom' doesn't end up looking like somebody fogged it with a rattle can of 'whatever' color. I am attempting to still honor the process the factory would have used to pick what colors went where.

So back to my question. In '67, if the dealer had a Red car with a 741 interior, then I bet the interior painted surfaces were a version of red also. Now, a customer or dealer orders the same Red car with a 760 (black) interior, does the factory paint the interior surfaces a version of Black or are they still Red?

From what I see on my car, my guess is that you got the Black interior with red painted surfaces. I doubt that Fisher would send the car back to have the Black sprayed separate of the Red that was already all over everything. Especially considering that the black interior is one of the two recommended interior colors for the Bolero Red car.

Thanks again for your info, keep it coming.

I'll keep going logically just to keep the thread fresh, and hopefully a 67 guru will weigh in.

I'll use the Norwood cars as an example because the interior paint codes are on the tags, but as far as actual production in this case (number of colors and applications for interior paint colors) I believe NOR and LA/VN were the same, and that LA/VN just used the space on the trim tag for another code. LA/VN would have had the same code on the POP. There are not separate codes for NOR and LA/VN

For 67, there are eight interior colors and eight interior paint "codes" listed ( http://www.camaros.org/numbers.shtml#InteriorColors ), while there are 15 exterior paint codes listed ( http://www.camaros.org/numbers.shtml#ExteriorColors ). So the interior paints were matched to the upholstery, not the exterior color. Your car had gold painted interior surfaces because it had a gold interior, not because it was a gold exterior. If the exterior had been Capri Cream, or Mountain Green, it still would have had gold paint on the interior surfaces.

Again, the only exception I know of is the one listed in the CRG table I linked; cars which had the 797 Custom Parchment interior got a black dash, black kickpanels, black carpet, black painted door and quarter tops, etc. I have no idea why the paint code for the 797 interior is "K" and not "E".

Thanks for clearing that up for me. That would make sense that the interior painted surfaces and the fabric colors should match. I know that the GM literature gave recommended combinations, but you could get any of the other colors if you ordered it that way.

Which combination was more popular from GM for '67, Bolero Red outside with Red inside, or Bolero Red outside with Black inside?

What is everybody's opinion, for a '67 car with Bolero Red exterior, do you like a Red Interior or a Black Interior?

I kind of think that the red interior would be different these days, it seems like a lot of cars have black interiors or a neutral color because they go with everything.

Bryan -

I don't think a production breakdown of interior color/exterior color combos exists. CRG estimates the number of Bolero Red 67s at about 15% of total, so it was popular.

Here's a link to a red 67 with red deluxe interior and black top. http://www.swcorvette.com/67%20camaro%20rs%20ss%20bb.htm

I like the combo with the black top and black stripes of the deluxe interior, but if the outside was just red and it had a red standard interior... well, that's a whole lot of red.

Bunch of pics on this link, including some shots (not so good) of red/red 67s.

http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/3652/67pics.html