: Base/Clear & Stripes
Sep 15th, 00, 06:37 AM
Question for you guys! I have the car disassembled. Doors, fenders, hood, trunk lid, grill, & glass. I want to have it painted using base/clear yellow with black stripes. My question is this: Do I need to put the fenders, hood and trunk lid back on for them to paint the stripes on? With the Base/clear type of paint job, can it be painted and then once I get it put back together, can the stripes be added? Would they be added over the clear coat or just how would/could that be done? If they can be added at a later time, how much later?
Sep 15th, 00, 02:33 PM
the best way is to spray the basecoat,lay out the stripes,spray the stripes in basecoat then clear the whole thing.i wouldn't spray the stripes on top of the clear.as far as doing the stripes with the car apart i wouldn't do it.the stripes run over the header panel the hood and the cowl panel.you want these panels exacltly where they are going to stay when you paint them,any movement and the stipes won't line up.check out the pictures on my page.i painted my camaro in single stage so i just sprayed it and did the stripes later.the chevelle was cleared and i did it the way i described above. http://members.spree.com/entertainment/ochrisl/
68 camaro,hugger orange ,white stripes.327 4 speed.
Sep 15th, 00, 03:13 PM
What I did was painted the car in pieces single stage, then put on the decklid, spoiler and all the front sheet metal. Then masked off the stripes, disassembled the car, painted the stipes in base then cleared the whole car. Well worth the effort!
Sep 15th, 00, 04:13 PM
I have one other option if you are spraying it apart. Spray all your pieces in your main body color (base coat) then lay out the stencils on your hood and trunk only. Spray your stripe color (base again) and clear it all. When you get your car panels all assembled and lined up lay out the strips on the header, cowl, and rear filler to line up with the stripes that are already on the hood and trunk (wetsand each piece first) Then paint the stripes and clear out those panels.
This works pretty good and saves having to respray the hood and trunk.
Sep 15th, 00, 06:52 PM
I basically agree with OCHRIS. I am going through this now and by doing it the way OCHRIS describes alot of good things will happen. One, there is NO chance for misalignment on the stripes if you paint them while all the body panels are in place. Two, if you paint the stripes first and then the rest of the car and THEN clearcoat everything, then you won't have any paint ridges where the stripes and normal body color meet. Three, there is no chance of the base color of the car bleeding through the stripes if you paint the stripes directly on the primer instead of over the base color. This is paticularly important when the stipe color is lighter than the rest of the body color. In this regard, I differ somewhat from the method OCHRIS describes because I wouldn't basecoat the entire car with the main body color before I basecoated the stripes first. I would then tape off the stipes and basecoat the main body color. Then I would clearcoat it all at the same time.
Be forewarned however that this method is much more time consuming. I have seen alot of people shoot the stripes AFTER the body color is applied. This is just one of the things that differentiate a 8-10K paint job from a 3-5K paint job!!! As usual all it takes is time & money. The body/paint man's time and YOUR money.
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Sep 16th, 00, 06:42 AM
One thing I forgot to mention, is, that the car is currently red, and on it's second coat of red! So the plan was to media blast the car down to metal, and begin to go from there. My concern is will we get all the old color off and properly prime and paint those hard to reach nooks and crannies with the car in one piece? Besides that, how do I prevent overspray on the freshly blasted, painted & rebuilt subframe & wheel wells? Maybe I approached this in the wrong sequence.
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Sep 16th, 00, 08:18 AM
I still say spray the body color first. Why? Well I'd much rather spray black over yellow than yellow over black. Although this is not always true yellows generally require more coats to "cover" and black always covers fast. You will have less of a paint line if its done in this order. In most cases I would agree with sr71bb and apply the stripe color first, but not for this color combo.
As far as overspray you can use a liquid mask (applied with a spray gun) after useing a liquid mask where needed, wipe the entire car with water then use your normal steps. I would still use a plastic mask over the frame/motor, after the liquid mask dries, so you don't get heavy overspray. Then when your done wash off your motor/frame wheel wells ect. The brand we use works great and washes off pretty good.