I have a set of original casting, 1969 Camaro Z28 302 Exhaust Manifolds and Polution pump. VERY low miles on them - Approximately 2-3000 miles. They were removed from the car when purchased brand new in 1969 and replaced with full headers. They have since been hanging in my garage.
I can't provide the casting numbers or part numbers as yet, but will when I get them as they are in storage currently. Pictures may also be provided.

Can someone provide me with an *honest* estimate of worth?

I have a set of original casting, 1969 Camaro Z28 302 Exhaust Manifolds and Polution pump. VERY low miles on them - Approximately 2-3000 miles. They were removed from the car when purchased brand new in 1969 and replaced with full headers. They have since been hanging in my garage.
I can't provide the casting numbers or part numbers as yet, but will when I get them as they are in storage currently. Pictures may also be provided.

Can someone provide me with an *honest* estimate of worth?

I've seen them range from $600-$1200 depending on condition. My guess would be yours are pretty nice with such low miles.
If someone needs those particular date codes, they'd probably be worth the high end of the range to that person. What are the dates? That could be a key factor.

Ooops! Sorry I missed the smog pump... A nice smog system is probably in the same range depending on condition.

Thank you for the estimate.

So, the manifolds $600 - $1200 and the polution pump $600-$1200?

Thank you for the estimate.

So, the manifolds $600 - $1200 and the polution pump $600-$1200?

Yes, the exhaust manifolds should be in that range. As for the smog, that would be for the full system, not just the pump- rails,valves,pump,pump brackets,pulley,etc...

Manifolds would be more towards the $1000 to $1500. I had searched for many months for a set. Smog setup $300 to $900 still loooking and yes, dates very important.

I just saw a diverter valve (NOS-the one that goes on top of the smog pump) last week on Ebay, it was up to $900 just for the valve.

alan

I just saw a diverter valve (NOS-the one that goes on top of the smog pump) last week on Ebay, it was up to $900 just for the valve.

alan

Yes, I saw it too, but it was NOS, not used...whole different ballgame.

Anyone want to trade for 527 and 826 manifold dates? :D I have Dec 68 ones looking for March or April. Longshot I know :)

Yes, I saw it too, but it was NOS, not used...whole different ballgame.

I keep telling my wife that she should treasure me as I too am 100% NOS (crowns on teeth are considered service replacement items).

She doesn't seem impressed.

;)

alan

I keep telling my wife that she should treasure me as I too am 100% NOS (crowns on teeth are considered service replacement items).

She doesn't seem impressed.

;)

alan

LOL! Good One!....:beers:

I think an early takeoff complete smog system, including deep groove pulley and original white fan pump, diverter, trees, check valves, brackets, hoses, etc is close to $2k. I watched a good used 458DG pulley last week that went for over $500.

I think an early takeoff complete smog system, including deep groove pulley and original white fan pump, diverter, trees, check valves, brackets, hoses, etc is close to $2k. I watched a good used 458DG pulley last week that went for over $500.

A few years back I purchased a NOS dated smog set up from Jerry MacNeish for $1500 which included everything but the belt.
:beers:

I have a set of original casting, 1969 Camaro Z28 302 Exhaust Manifolds and Polution pump. VERY low miles on them - Approximately 2-3000 miles. They were removed from the car when purchased brand new in 1969 and replaced with full headers. They have since been hanging in my garage.
I can't provide the casting numbers or part numbers as yet, but will when I get them as they are in storage currently. Pictures may also be provided.

Can someone provide me with an *honest* estimate of worth?


I got some casting numbers.

3846826 RH code on back: C49

3842527 LG Code on back: C39

Smog lines are attached with valve. Smog pump complete with pulley (white fins) and valve on top.

Pictures to follow soon. :)

I watched a good used 458DG pulley last week that went for over $500.

That 458 was advertised as original, it wasn't.

Picture are posted at the following link. Just to be clear, I would like to sell it complete as pictured.

http://s247.photobucket.com/albums/gg144/johnny_munyak/

Nice looking ex manifolds with what appears to be original studs, the diverter is the early style ( made in 68 ) with the support wires of the front. The plastic fan looks like it is black though.
What is the date on the little half moon pad on the pump?

There are pictures of the casting numbers posted with the rest of the pics? Can you be more specific as to where I need to get the date off of??

This IS the original pump that came with that car......

johhny-
Yes the casting numbers look correct, however the little half moon pad is located on the side of the pump body, the cutout area where the stamp is located is approx the size of a .50c piece ( or Canadian loonie eh.), it should read something like this- 06291S. Since the manifolds are dated March/69, I am only guessing on the pump date. The little pad is 1&1/2" long with a little cutout where the date is stamped.
If the plastic fan behind the pully is Black, then either the fan has been changed or the pump was changed way back when.

Hope This Helps.

There are pictures of the casting numbers posted with the rest of the pics? Can you be more specific as to where I need to get the date off of??

This IS the original pump that came with that car......

No pictures of the assembly date code that I noticed.
On the side of the unit there is a half moon milled area that is stamped. Ex: 06391S

Also need a close-up of the "458" stamped area on the smog pump pulley.

Doug

LOL, Doug we think the same, you where only 1 day off my guess.

LOL, Doug we think the same, you where only 1 day off my guess.

Hey, We both have a 1969 RSZ28 , Hugger Orange, White Stripes. What can I say?? :thumbsup: We must think alike.

Doug

johhny-
Yes the casting numbers look correct, however the little half moon pad is located on the side of the pump body, the cutout area where the stamp is located is approx the size of a .50c piece ( or Canadian loonie eh.), it should read something like this- 06291S. Since the manifolds are dated March/69, I am only guessing on the pump date. The little pad is 1&1/2" long with a little cutout where the date is stamped.
If the plastic fan behind the pully is Black, then either the fan has been changed or the pump was changed way back when.

Hope This Helps.

Thank you for the directions. Ok.......I found the number. DAMN....is that thing hard to find! The number is 06291S.

Johnny,
The numbers are exactly what I guessed? - 06291S? I should buy a lottery ticket today. LOL.
Is the plastic fan Black? If it is, someone must have changed it as black fans never came out till approx. - 1972
You should try to post a additional picture of the pully number stamping, if it is a original it is worth some money as noted in the previous replys! Originals have a indent? around the numbers.
Also check the stamp number on the diverter valve, it is at the bottom of the diverter flange facing forward where it is bolted onto the extension, it should read 29295.
I am also guessing that the pully bolts are RBW head markings, the pump rear case bolts should be WB or SBC, and the extension and diverter bolts are probably SBC or TR.
This all helps when you sell the setup. Do you still have the other hose and also the clamps?
Again, I Hope this Helps.
Mike.

No, the fan is not black. It is white. I believe it is just "blackened" from carbon or dirt/grease deposit? I guess from the angle of the picture, it does look black but when you turn the pulley, it does show a white fan?

Thank you for the directions. Ok.......I found the number. DAMN....is that thing hard to find! The number is 06291S.

Johnny,
62nd day of '69. Very desireable date........

Doug

8)

looks like a black fan and the ink stamp is gone. Pulley looks warped or is it not bolted on?

No, the fan is not black. It is white. I believe it is just "blackened" from carbon or dirt/grease deposit? I guess from the angle of the picture, it does look black but when you turn the pulley, it does show a white fan?

Anxiously awaiting a close-up of the pulley stamping. :)

Doug

Jerry currently has restored complete systems for $1695, shipping and insurance included.

The condition of yours will dictate the value from here.

Best of luck.

So the smog pump fan is cracked, the pulley is bent, which is the 2 most important parts of the pump so the real question is what are the manifolds worth with a smog pump core?

The broken pump and manifolds have sold for $2000. This almost seems like a Barrett Jackson auction,inflated prices. So $2000 plus $150 shipping then $300 for a restore for a total of almost $2500. Someone must have needed those dates really bad.

Quote by smith69Z-

"The broken pump and manifolds have sold for $2000. This almost seems like a Barrett Jackson auction,inflated prices. So $2000 plus $150 shipping then $300 for a restore for a total of almost $2500. Someone must have needed those dates really bad."


Huh? Am I missing something? Did Johnny sell the setup?
Please Explain?

Yes, sold. The story is I agreed to purchase for $2000 since I had a buyer for my existing setup. After questioning Jamie about the pic of the fan he honestly stated the the pulley was bent into the fan cracking it. As we know the pulley and white fan are key componets of the smog pump. I offered 1800, yes nuts, and Jamie stated to call him and he would work with me due to him accepting my original offer of 2000 before the pump issue was known. This moring I was informed he had a buyer that was whiling to pay 2000 for the setup as is. I was just doing the math. 2000 + 150 shipping + 300 for restoration = 2450 for the manifolds and pump shell.

smith69z-
Oh, OK I see now,

IMO - Well it would actually be a little more than just a pump shell, there is the 29295 diverter valve/ diverter extension/ 06291S dated pump / ORIGINAL 69 smog tubes with the little tube extensions, (original smog tubes are VERY hard to find) / lower no hole bracket/5361992 check valves/1 hose/ , and all original bolts. You can also have the pully straightened, I have done this before, it takes some tinkering with a dial indicator and a hammer, but it is very possible.
To help out a fellow TC member, I would be Happy to straighten it for Free if you were to make a deal and if you pay the shipping .



This is just my take on it, I am not taking any sides in this.

Hope you guys can work it out.

No Don,

You dropped your offer as per our conversation via email.....as per below. You ended this harshly, not me.

"...Would you accept $1700 plus $125 for shipping for the 3 pieces? "

No need to work out anyrthing. Jamie is a very pleasant and honest man explaining the pump damage to me. Glad Jamie got 2K for it and someone got what they needed for their March car.

I'll trade a set of December exhaust manifolds for those March one's to whoever bought that set-up. March manifolds would most likely be for an April-May car.

Hylton, So if March is for April-May, would Jan be for Feb-Mar cars?

Heck, I'll trade a set of April/May exhaust manifolds for Feb/March one's :-)

Hylton, So if March is for April-May, would Jan be for Feb-Mar cars?

As you probably know, many parts were made in batches. As a result, some months had parts manufactured more often than others. I have seen December dated exhaust manifolds on an April car before so based on that, I would be comfortable putting Dec-Feb made manifolds on a March car. I have not seen January dated exhaust manifolds. Anyone?

As you probably know, many parts were made in batches. As a result, some months had parts manufactured more often than others. I have seen December dated exhaust manifolds on an April car before so based on that, I would be comfortable putting Dec-Feb made manifolds on a March car. I have not seen January dated exhaust manifolds. Anyone?

I have 1 Jan manifold and one Aug 68 manifold (bought off ebay a long time ago) I have a May car and Don has a March car. So what should we have on each of our cars? Inquiring minds want to know :D

I would put Dec or Jan on the March car. Feb or March manifolds on the May car.

I would put Dec or Jan on the March car. Feb or March manifolds on the May car.

Sounds fine, but now for the curveball :D the May car (05A trim tag) was ACTUALLY assembled in JUNE due to the strike at the Van nuys plant. Could that car have later manifolds, i.e. April/May? :D

Sounds fine, but now for the curveball :D the May car (05A trim tag) was ACTUALLY assembled in JUNE due to the strike at the Van nuys plant. Could that car have later manifolds, i.e. April/May? :D


Maybe but don't forget - if the car was stuck on the assembly line during the strike, so were the parts! The suppliers might have decided they had enough stock and just stopped everything while the strike was on. There are quite a few examples of June cars with spring dated components on them.

Maybe but don't forget - if the car was stuck on the assembly line during the strike, so were the parts! The suppliers might have decided they had enough stock and just stopped everything while the strike was on. There are quite a few examples of June cars with spring dated components on them.

Very true :D I guess it would all depend on what they had laying around and what was the first set on the top of the pile.

Exactly.