Wanting to know were the Embossed Chevy Bowtie Logo Standard on the Chrome Mirrors for the 67 Camaro ?? Or were there NO Bowtie Logo on the mirror backs??

No bowties on Camaro mirrors.

i received email from a 67 camaro owner who personally knows a person who worked at the Norwood plant from May of 1966 till GM closed the plant . Paul says Bowtie mirrors were correct for the 67 Camaro ! Looking for more replies ASAP as i was thinking of installing a matching pair of these on my 67 Camaro which were new from Goodmark Industries.

I just looked in 2 of my restoration books and they both say that the 67 had the round chrome mirror with the bowtie logo. Only on the drivers door though. Of course, we all know that these books are not 100% accurate, but I'd go with it if it were me. I think they look kinda cool. smile.gif

Steve; i presume the reason you say ONLY Driver"s Door is because they only installed them on the driver"s door & if you wanted one on the Passenger door it had to be an over the shelve accessory part from the dealership?

The bowtie mirrors are a Corvette part. They have found their way into the Camaro market due to their similarity. The restoration places that advertize them as original Camaro mirrors just don't know any better. Or, they just want to sell you a mirror - any mirror.

This is from a book I use for info, ORIGINAL CAMARO 1967-1969 by Jason Scott:
"The exterior rearview mirror was a round, chromed mirror with a small 'bow tie' insignia on the back". And "An outside rearview mirror was not available for the passenger's door".

In the classic industries catalogue, they show the GM Reproduction mirror with the bow tie.

I looked at a lot of pictures of restored 67's, but unless they do a closeup of the mirror, its impossible to tell. Some pics I can clearly see the bow tie, other pics not. And of all the pics I've seen of restored '67's, none of them had the mirror on the passenger side. But these are resored cars. I looked at ads from 67 and can't tell one way or the other if there is a bow tie there. But there isnt a passenger door mirror.

This is not a definitive answer. We know these books contain errors and omissions from time to time. Kyvox seemes like he's 100% on this, so he could be right.

I don't think a passenger door mirror is correct on my car either, but I would not want to drive a car without one. I've got a long, skinny driveway and visibility when the top is up is severly limited. I love the stock look, but this is a neccessity for me. And I don't think it detracts from the original look of my car to the casual observer. But it sounds to me like you're going for 100% original, so keep researching.

No bowties. I have 2 original paint 67's, one
LOS built, one NOR-built.

I have not had a 67 for quite a few years, but the ones I have had did not have a bowtie on the mirror. I still have the mirror, part # 3874242, from a 67 I had in high school 23 years ago. It's sitting in front of me now and it has no logo.

No Logo

I have two 1967 Camaros; one its a plain Jane, the other an RS. Both have deluxe interior. Both have the original round mirror (driver's side only). The plain Jane has the emblem, the RS does not. (The plain Jane had the deluxe exterior chrome package as well.)

One of the cars (RS) has full documentation back to 1967 so I know the mirror is original. The other car was in storage for 20+ years and has so many original pieces and was so unmodified when I aquired it that I am assuming the mirror must be original as well. I'm guessing if the plain Jane coupe does indeed have the original bowtie mirror, that perhaps it came with the Exterior Chrome package??? (RPO Z21)
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Originally posted by jg95z28:
I have two 1967 Camaros; one its a plain Jane, the other an RS. Both have deluxe interior. Both have the original round mirror (driver's side only). The plain Jane has the emblem, the RS does not. (The plain Jane had the deluxe exterior chrome package as well.)
Jeff: Check the date code on the mirror with the bowtie. It's written on the edge of the glass and is usually of the form mm-DMI-y. I'll betcha your bowtie mirror is dated, oh, about 20 years old.

Hate to muddy the waters further, but my early production 67, (built 3rd week of October) has a bowtie mirror with a 6, a circled s, and another 6 on the bottom of the glass. (Although they could be 9's if I looked at it upside down.) :D

Hmmm, interesting info.

DMI I think is short for Donnelly Mirror Inc, supplier of the mirror.

Ajax Corp also supplied 67 mirrors as another car I owned had its original dated mirror with AX (short for Ajax) instead of DMI.

I wonder what the S with the circle means? :confused:

My '67 also has a bowtie mirror on the driver side. I don't have a second exterior mirror also.
Mine is (was) a 283ci v8 deluxe interior, don't know if it had the exterior deluxe package though.
The first date the car was on the road (according to my papers) was March 13th 1967, so it must have been made earlier in the Swiss factory.

A few weeks ago I was watching a website of a fellow member here, and there were many old ads of '67 Camaros. On one ad I saw the mirror with the bow-tie on it, but is was seperated from the car.....maybe a part sold from the dealer?? I also saw the gas-cap with the Bow-tie and the lock in it.....
I also was thinking that my bowtie mirror was not 'correct' but this made me think otherwise. Same with the gas-cap with a lock, I also thought is was some 'modern' thingy.

It is the website with the many original ads in it, and it also had info about the 'tissue-holder' etc. etc.
Maybe in that ad we can read if it was an option or not??

I can't seem to find the ads anymore :(

WOW! the response is great!! I have the Original Plain 67 door mirror off my 67 Camaro. I recently purchased a pair of the bowtie mirros (repo)& installed the one on the driver"s door. I want to install the other on the passenge door BUT want to be sure that the Bowtie mirror was used by the factory on the 67 Camaro befoe i drill holes to mouny the hardware to the pass., door. Right now seems as it is a 50//50 yes--no ??

I'm keeping an open mind but I remember asking the guys judging at the highest levels at Carlisle last Summer (Larry Christensen, Jerry MacNeish, and Brian Henderson) and they were all in agreement that the non-bowtie mirrors were correct.

Discussion here opens the possibility that perhaps very early production cars and maybe overseas cars had different mirrors.

PS: David, I have scanned copies of all the GM ads for the 67 Camaro on my website here (http://www.67z28.com/cgi-bin/emAlbum.cgi?cmd=show_thumbs&path=67%20Camaro%20Print%20Ads/Chevrolet&tn=1) but I can't see any that show the mirror up close. The Accessories brochure you're thinking about is viewable on www.1967Z28.com (http://www.1967Z28.com) in the "Chevy Print" section but again I didn't see any evidence of a dealer installed side mirror option.

Originally posted by deejaygee:
Jeff: Check the date code on the mirror with the bowtie. It's written on the edge of the glass and is usually of the form mm-DMI-y. I'll betcha your bowtie mirror is dated, oh, about 20 years old. Hmmm. Ok, I'll check both tonight. Maybe the one with the bowtie is a replacement afterall. :confused:

Originally posted by Rick Stewart:
WOW! the response is great!! I have the Original Plain 67 door mirror off my 67 Camaro. I recently purchased a pair of the bowtie mirros (repo)& installed the one on the driver"s door. I want to install the other on the passenge door BUT want to be sure that the Bowtie mirror was used by the factory on the 67 Camaro befoe i drill holes to mouny the hardware to the pass., door. Right now seems as it is a 50//50 yes--no ?? Since the factory never installed passenger side mirrors, I guess it really doesn't matter in this case. Passenger side mirrors are either dealer, or owner installed, never factory.

Thanks for the links deejaygee! I guess these are the ones I meant.

I found a few things, but I don't know if these are correct as it's known GM sometimes altered their ads a bit (untold-secrets)

Here are a few drawings/pics from the ads. As these ads were probably made in 1966-1967 I asume when I see something on a mirror it is not a filthy spot or something like that...but a bowtie, or at least it was meant to be one at that time. I can only make the conclusion that the GM-people were thinking of using these mirrors on the Camaro, being it factory installed or dealer-installed....but it was in 1966-67...


http://www.67z28.com/gallery/albums/67%20Camaro%20Print%20Ads/Chevrolet/aap.sized.jpg


http://www.1967z28.com/graphics/camaro-back.jpg


http://www.1967z28.com/graphics/acc7.jpg

[ 12-02-2003, 05:34 AM: Message edited by: DL ]