View Full Version : 1969 camaros no title in NC


Ready2Go69
Jan 29th, 08, 11:17 AM
I have two 69 camaros I bought twenty years ago. They are setting in a field and are in rough shape. Here is my question I do not have titles for either car because both have been wrecked and I bought them for parts but now due to the availability of parts it may be a good idea to restore one.
Is it hard to get a title in NC for these cars?
thanks for this great site.

usa1z28
Jan 29th, 08, 11:43 AM
This is my first time posting on this site. I am also a new NC resident and '69 camaro owner of which I have not registered in NC, yet. I have a NYS registration, no title (not req. in NY). I share your concern on this matter, this new law may complicate things. Have you seen this recent news item? I believe it was in the Raleigh paper.

Dan Kane, Staff Writer
The N.C. Division of Motor Vehicles is requiring owners of newly purchased antique and custom-built vehicles to have them inspected and photographed by a DMV License and Theft inspector before receiving a title.
The DMV announced the new regulations today, six months after allegations surfaced that George Tatum, then the DMV commissioner, had helped a friend get a replica titled as a vintage vehicle. The requirements also come after the DMV discovered it had a flawed process for tracking antique vehicles and catching fake titles. A DMV report in October found that an Alabama company was behind hundreds of fake antique titles for vehicles that were used by owners to gain North Carolina titles. Both matters have become the subject of investigations. No findings have been announced regarding Tatum, who resigned in July. He has denied helping his friend get the title. DMV spokeswoman Marge Howell said the division is awaiting a determination from federal authorities as to whether they will take up the case involving the Alabama company. If they don't, Howell said the division will pursue it through state authorities. Under the new DMV requirements, an inspector will issue a report, collect fees and out-of-state documentation for the vehicle, and then fax all the information to the special titles unit at DMV headquarters for initial approval. Once that happens, inspectors will then issue a 60-day temporary tag while further information is gathered. The owner will get a title and license plate from the DMV when the full inspection is completed. DMV officials said the new requirements will not affect those who already have registered and titled their vintage and custom-built vehicles. But starting in May, the DMV said, owners of those vehicles can request a review of their vehicle titles to make sure they were not obtained through false information. Antique vehicles are defined as being at least 35 years old from the date of manufacture. Custom-built vehicles are defined as having been completely reconstructed or assembled from new or used parts. They will be registered as "custom-built" and the model year will reflect when they were built. DMV agencies issue about 20 tags per day for antique or custom-built vehicles, officials say.

67pat
Jan 29th, 08, 11:57 AM
If your state...NY doesnt have a title requirement then there has to be some means of idetification of the car owner.There has to be some mechanism in place for people moving out of NY to other states that require a title.In Tennessee a prior registration of the car in NY,a bill of sale, and your drivers license will get you a new title if you were to relocate. I,personally like what I read in the first line of the article ..."to have them inspected and photographed by a DMV License and Theft inspector before receiving a title." That's certainly gonna cut down on alot of the riff-raff thats going on in the antique/classic car business.I dont think it will be too painful to have this done either...you know the inspector they have is probably gonna be some ole gearhead who knows alot about old cars and will probably want to BS more than inspect...hell I'd love to have that job!

usa1z28
Jan 29th, 08, 12:06 PM
Agreed. The NYS registration has some verbiage such as ".... this is your only proof of ownership..." I do not think my situation will be a difficult one. However, Thomas (the first poster) may have to go through the full process. My guess, if there is a VIN attached, he shouldn't be too terribly inconvenienced. The DMV people here that I have met have been exceedingly cooperative.

Ready2Go69
Jan 29th, 08, 12:51 PM
Both of my cars have vin tags and trim tags. The cars where bought for parts 20 years ago when you could get whole cars for $500 bucks.

1969ProStreetCamaro
Jan 29th, 08, 07:55 PM
The title company referred to in the above posting is Broadway Title Company in Birmingham,Al.

Camaro69RagTop
Jan 30th, 08, 06:47 PM
Im not sure if this may help you out..
http://www.ncdot.org/dmv/vehicle_services/registrationtitling/howToRegister.html

usa1z28
Jan 31st, 08, 07:30 PM
Thanks Mark... There's a good discussion going on over at www.chevelles.net (http://www.chevelles.net) about the new NC laws http://www.chevelles.com/forums/showthread.php?t=206422

Ready2Go69
Feb 1st, 08, 05:59 AM
Thanks for all the help called the DMV and they said bring them the vin # to start with.
thanks team camaro

KevinK7
Feb 1st, 08, 07:42 AM
I realize this is obvious for those in NY, ...but just to clarify...
Pre-1973 vehicles registered in NY don't have a "NY title", ...but they do have a TWO part vehicle registration where one of those two parts is the "transferable registration". It in effect acts the same/similar as a title in that it is used to transfer ownership.
When you initially register an older vehicle, ...you will get a "NON-transferrable" registration. Once the VIN, etc. clears through DMV in Albany, ...then you'll receive the "Transferrable" registration. If you have this (in NY) it's equivalent to a title. (I recently did this with a project/parts car '67, ...VIN trace, photos, etc. (lots of paperwork), ...but once it cleared in Albany, ...I was good to go.)

Going to another state (ie. NC), ...with the NY ("transferrable") registration, ...you should be all set.

As for the initial poster, ...bring in a "pencil tracing" of the VIN too, ...it may help.