Even though there is a huge wealth of information to be found in this forum, if you really want to know what your car is worth then just put it on eBay.
Since listing my car last week all the experts have come out of the woodwork to tell me how much I should be selling it for. To them. Conflict of interest? I dunno. I ranted a few months ago about all the terms that were being thrown around and how inaccurate they were. I was afraid it would devalue my car and I was right.
So, 800 1st gen Camaros have sold in the last week for less than 14k that means my car should sell for that much. I had no idea. Who cares how much time and money was poured into the car. Who cares what kind of shape it is in. Who cares how much it appraised for. Nobody. Because a NOM 1st gen with a cowl induction hood and 454 was sold as a "spectacularly restored SS" for just 12 grand last week. Sheesh! I guess I will just hang on to her until the next Barrett-Jackson auction.

Umm OK

Don't worry Chris, I understand your point ;) :D

Buzz0
Take your car and sell it wherever you want. If you know what it's worth then go get it. If you don't like what people here say .... who cares.
Wa wa wa
Yeah Ebay is a great place to figure out what your car is worth or what some idiot is willing to pay for it. If you get big bucks... then good for you.

........ Because a NOM 1st gen with a cowl induction hood and 454 was sold as a "spectacularly restored SS" for just 12 grand last week. .......

Do you have a link to that auction. I gotta see that one.

i think there is a huge difference in worth and what some lone idiot is willing to pay. a general concensus of your car's value has more credit of worth, while ebay is (like i've said before) a playground for idiots and crooks. i don't think ebay is any kind of accurate gauge of worth. along the same lines, think of a person making alot of money and earning alot of money: there's a big difference there. ebay makes money; the 'time and money, shape, and appraisal' is how your car will earn money.

It’s nothing new… I gave up rebuilding these cars to resell in the mid 80s for the same reason. Them: wadda you mean you want $3000! Bubba down the road is selling one for $200 I could fix that one up nice like yours for less than that! Me: Is that right? Have a nice day. :p

Buzz0
Take your car and sell it wherever you want. If you know what it's worth then go get it. If you don't like what people here say .... who cares.
Wa wa wa
Yeah Ebay is a great place to figure out what your car is worth or what some idiot is willing to pay for it. If you get big bucks... then good for you.

No I'm not saying I don't like what anybody here says. It's all these "experts" on what a 1st gen is worth that come out of the woodwork. I have called a few of them out because it is obvious they are wanting to flip the car.
I've had enough hotrods over the years that I know you can't always expect to get back what you put in them. I also know that any given car is only worth what a buyer is willing to pay for it. If this forum told me what my car was worth, I would listen. I just wanted to rant a little about all the lowballers that are insulting my car and the work that went into it. I guess I asked for it by listing on eBay though.

I'm really confused about whether you're upset with TC or just venting in general. IMO you're putting too much stock in appraisals and price guides. The market for these cars is whatever it is at the time. For most of us it's love, not an investment.

For the rest of TC, here's the auction. It's a nice car, but $30K plus for a numbers matching 68 base V8 car is probably not realistic right now.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1968-s-matching-327-Camaro-Sport-Coupe_W0QQitemZ130192950045QQcmdZViewItem?hash=ite m130192950045

What were the "experts" saying the car is worth?

Who cares how much it appraised for. Nobody. Because a NOM 1st gen with a cowl induction hood and 454 was sold as a "spectacularly restored SS" for just 12 grand last week. Sheesh! I guess I will just hang on to her until the next Barrett-Jackson auction.

I am trying to figure out this post??

I do think it's funny that someone would by a Numbers matching first gen with a 454 though :D. That is one rare first gen for sure :yes:

First of all, I'm not ranting against TC. Just trying to make a joke of all the clowns who want to buy my car for 12 grand. The great thing about eBay, if there is one, is you can look at the feedback from the people who send the messages. A few of them make a few bucks buying cars and then relisting them. That's fine, if somebody is willing to buy the vehicle more power to them. But I just find it insulting to hit me up wanting to pay 12-14k for the car.
Is my price realistic? I don't know. Yes, it is a numbers matching base coupe. But it is also a very nice one that has never been cut up and is mechanically brand new. I'm not trying to get rich off of the car, if it sells for the reserve price then I've gotten my money back out of the car and make a couple of grand for all the effort that went into it.
Somewhere out there is some guy who wants a nice 1st gen that reminds him of high school/college/first girlfriend/whatever and doesn't want to spend the time or money restoring a car. Sure, he can go to one of the restorers and plunk down some cash for a professionally restored RS/SS/Z28/Yenko or whatever but that is going to cost him a lot more than low 30s.
OK, I said you guys are the experts and I'm willing to back that up.....tell me what it's worth.

I figure $18-20K ballpark.

I started to say 16k or so a few posts back but didnt know what you were after.

wow, I hadn't looked at ebay completed sale in a while... didn't know prices had dropped this much! It was nice to see a few fun/driver restomodded cars sold for more than numbers-matching base model cars though :hurray:.

I like asking the TC members their opinions on prices for both cars and parts. I value all of the input, and it helps me decide what a overall market might be considering this site is worldwide. What sells at Bubbas in Arkansas might be different than Vinnies in Chicago.................Its just honest opinions, and I do understand the frustration of some of the ultimate lowballers.

People approach buying a car in different ways. Mine is when I find a car I like, I look around to see what else is available for the same price. So thats what I did with your car. Right now (since we're using e-bay as a gauge) there are 2 68 327 convertibles with a buy it now around 25k. It's hard to compete with those cars. I think those cars are fairly priced I also think a vert adds about 5 to 7k to the price, so your car to me is in the 17 to 20k range.

Looked at the auction, I agree that car is worth 17-18K on Ebay.... If it was a RS/SS or Ragtop with loaded options then the price goes up....

To many 68's out there... I have a deal on a 68 SS 396 4 speed 12-bolt Tuxedo Black car Real SS for 20K... No telling where either.... LOL....


http://community.webshots.com/user/jeff69rag2001

Jeff

67 RS/SS Convert 350
69 RS/SS Convert 396 Hugger Orange
69 SS Convert 454 LS5 Tuxedo Black
67 (Dare Not say on this Site)........

A base car in that condition but needing mechanical work like suspension engine etc (running and a driver though) I would peg at between 13-16K. I would very much like to pay less if buying and would want more if selling.

After some paint, rub, scrub suspension work and engine work and paint, I would say 17-20K (your 68). With that said, I really think for me some of the littile things are killing it. Paint chips and the crack at the 1/4, they are all very expensive things to fix if you want to look right. It has a shot of the rear wheel well and 1/4. Where are the spot welds in the 1/4 lip? Has it been skined, 1/4 replaced, patch panel? The shot from the rear of the car and under it looks like it was coated with some paint here and there, it looks like a spray can job, painted over dirt. Under the hood the engine looks nice but the fender wells are dingy and the frame dirty. Since there are no pictures of the suspension areas I suspect they look older or are dirty.

I am really not tearing this car apart, just things I noticed when looking at the auction and what I thought about when seeing a 32.5K buy it now. For that kind of money I would expect a 68 Base coupe that might still need some details but not restoration in areas, I would also expect better paint.

it says you bought it off a dealer lot. You say here you want your money back and a little for your time and you want to build a PT car. You might have paid to much at a dealer? I would use this car as your PT project, keep all the parts and put them away. Almost everything you could do as a PT car can be put back, it looks to be a very solid start. Building a PT car out of does not mean your taking away some part of Camaro history because it has a matching numbers block.......it's your car and do with it as you please and can afford.

Again this is all just my opinion, I don't mean to dis you or your Camaro, I think it's a nice one but just not 32.5K nice. I am also no expert just a guy with an opinion and you know what they say about those!!

Joe

You asked, so here goes. I, in no way mean to offend you and I am no expert, just a car guy being honest.

There is a small crack at the corner where the roof meets the quarter panel on the passenger side, a couple of small nicks just behind the driver side door, a small amount of chipping along the front edge of the trunk lid, a crack along the middle of the hood, and some cracking in the lip of the rear passenger side wheel well. There are also a few small spots of orange peel and runs/drips. None of these items are noticeable from a few feet away.

The above would be a BIG deal to me, if paying 32k and as Joe stated, big bucks to fix correctly and re-paint. It is a very nice car but IMHO not close to a 32k car. I'm not looking to buy or flip, and again I'm no expert, just giving an opinion, which is what you asked for. On the high side, 20k tops.

68's have always been the poor mans 1st gen imo. Tons on the market in project to complete restoration state, are always up for sale. I can look around and find 3 camaros one from each yr that usually are identical except for year, and almost always the 69 is highest, then 67, and finally 68 in the $$$ category.

Now take not offense and that is merely my opinion based on my findings, and as such may be BS.

I also agree that the values seem down a little acros the board, but thats just the economy overall I think. I have also found selling anything around tax time is a bad a idea. Wait until after taxes to usually see a increase in attention. People having to possibly pay taxes are not out buying cars usually, they are waiting to pay the tax and absorb that $$$ loss. And those getting $$$ back are just waiting on the check so they can spend it! Now you may think thats BS, but my uncle made a pretty penny over the last 10yrs buying old cars around this time of year and holding them until spring/summer and making a nice profit.

As to your observation of flipping cars, Thats been going on alot more lately than usual it seems. Thank the BJ auctions for that one also I think.

Thanks everybody for your opinions. I have to honestly say that I am very disappointed. I apparently paid more for the car (18.5) than it will ever be worth. I have 27 in the car so far so I am upside down in it by at least 10 grand. My stomach hurts.
I guess I better stop looking down my nose at all the non-original cars. I see them sell around 20k and think that my car is worth more than that because it is unmolested and number matching. The worst part is I could have spent that money going in the PT direction like I originally intended.
As for the paint, I sure wouldn't want to spend another 5 k on the car because it still isn't going to be worth squat. Ditto for sandblasting the undercoating off and re-painting the bottom of the car.
The buy it now price is not the reserve, that is just a response to a gazillion emails about "how much will you take, etc" and to weed out the people who want a Camaro for 500 bucks. I guess my only hope now is to total the car and let the insurance pay the appraised price. Speaking of which, I'm calling the appraiser today and telling him what an idiot he is. :mad:

Relax Buzz0, read my post.

Your trying to valuea car during the wrong time of yr, and not to mention a bad time duringthe economy! Park it in the garage and come back around spring, etc.. and take it to some car shows and put yourself a 20k sales ta on it and watch it go bye bye!

Yes you could of went PT direction and gotten a pretty penny out of it, if you chose to fix it to sell it. But had you went PT and held it say 5-10 yrs and then decided to sell the car and PT was NOT the trend you would took a loss just like alot of PS camaro ownrs did when PT took over as the trend. Staying stock is slightly modifiying for your taste is usually the best ticket all around because it keeps a base value not determined by the current trend. Yes you will get less than the curent trend, but your usaully safe bet on getting a solid price for keeping stockish.

Plus lastly but not leastly,.... very rarely do any of us make any money on cars we restore from ground up for our liking. When you restore for enjoyment its different approachthan restore for profit, alot of corners cut, etc... when restoring for profit. Otherwise every restored hot rod would have to much time & $$$ to make a profit.

Originally posted by BuzzO:
I apparently paid more for the car (18.5) than it will ever be worth.


I don't think that's true....just not now in today's economy. I don't think you got screwed at 18.5. If I were you, I would hang on to it, drive it and enjoy it for a few years. I truly believe the pricing will come back on our cars in a couple of years, when the economy gets straightened out....it goes in cycles and we are on the down swing right now, it'll come back. :thumbsup:

Speaking of which, I'm calling the appraiser today and telling him what an idiot he is. :mad:



Now thats funny:D:D I agree with the others, It's just the wrong time of year to try and sell it. I am going through the exact same thing with my 68 Chevelle. I cant give the car away right now. It's been on ebay and the stupid low ball offers had been crazy :mad: I even emialed one idiot back and asked him if he wanted me to pay him to take the car ?:sad::sad: I am just going to wait till spring when the car shows start up again, then I'll bet I have no problem selling for a fair price.

Thanks everybody for your opinions. I have to honestly say that I am very disappointed. I apparently paid more for the car (18.5) than it will ever be worth. I have 27 in the car so far so I am upside down in it by at least 10 grand. My stomach hurts.
I guess I better stop looking down my nose at all the non-original cars. I see them sell around 20k and think that my car is worth more than that because it is unmolested and number matching. The worst part is I could have spent that money going in the PT direction like I originally intended.
As for the paint, I sure wouldn't want to spend another 5 k on the car because it still isn't going to be worth squat. Ditto for sandblasting the undercoating off and re-painting the bottom of the car.
The buy it now price is not the reserve, that is just a response to a gazillion emails about "how much will you take, etc" and to weed out the people who want a Camaro for 500 bucks. I guess my only hope now is to total the car and let the insurance pay the appraised price. Speaking of which, I'm calling the appraiser today and telling him what an idiot he is. :mad:
BUZZ!! CALM DOWN!!
Just bad timing at the moment. Sit on it tiol spring and put it back up. The car COULD BRING more money of you hang on a little bit. Dont do anything stupid by destroying a car that, believe it or not, getting harder to find everyday.
Hold it for a bit. IVE NEVER LOST MONEY ON A CAMARO. SOMEONE WANTS TO GIVE WHAT YOU WLL TAKE.

There are lots of different "selling climates" out there. You have:
1. What TC members would pay (more knowledgeable and discerning taste)
2. EBay trend prices/values
3. BJ auction prices/values
4. Regional prices/values
4. Local area prices/values

For instance, if I wanted to sell my car for top dollar...I certainly wouldn't sell it here (I hope you guys know what I mean here). Ebay may suck right now, but you might do better to sell it locally. Then, as others have said, you may just have to wait.

The BJ Auction pleasantly shocked me this year, as resto-mods and customs were fetching more than some originals. Documented cars certainly have historically had higher value, but you have to look at the variables with your buying audience.

Take me, for instance; If I'm looking to buy a 1st gen...and I look at a numbers matching, all original 350 RS 69'...and then see a plain jane freshly rebuilt 350 RS clone with the nice paint & interior etc., but has 3rd gen PS, upgraded front & rear suspension...and they're both say, 25K...I'd choose the clone. But that's just me. And you have lots of guys who covet their original cars, but who have spent 10K in upgrades, which don't really keep them original anymore (imho). But for me, I want a 1st gen that handles like a modern day sports car....but you're not going to get that with an original car unless you spend even more money. Just an example.

My point is that there are many different types of buyers out there. You just have to be realistic as to what category your car fits in...and what kind of market there is for it.

I feel your pain man. I'm trying to sell my 67 396 car right now and I'm not having much luck either. My car isn't perfect, previous owner removed and lost a lot of the original parts, but one of a very limited number produced, and still nicer than a majority of the cars I see for sale anywhere.

I had it listed here for a while with little response. Then I listed it on ebay. I had the same response. A lot of big talk from "cash buyers" that wanted to steal the car and resell it. It finally sold, below what it is really worth, and the buyer has yet to contact me. He's got about 7 hours before his time runs out and I have to decide what's next for the car.

I really think if you can hold off until spring you'll see a better return. I also agree with everybody else that you may need to temper your expectations a little. I have a matching #s 67 327 project that I figured when done would probably bring $20-25K tops. I'm sure I'll have way more than that in it.

I guess I better stop looking down my nose at all the non-original cars. I see them sell around 20k and think that my car is worth more than that because it is unmolested and number matching. The worst part is I could have spent that money going in the PT direction like I originally intended.

I guess my only hope now is to total the car and let the insurance pay the appraised price.

Unmolested and matching numbers add alot of value to desirable and/or rare optioned cars. To plain janes like yours, not so much. Your car looks like a great canidate for that PT car you really want, why don't you go for it?

And you better hope the car does not get totaled. You probably have a stated value policy, where you have stated the value is what the appraiser wrote the appraisal at. That is not what you would get from the insurance company on a stated value policy. On this car you would get alot less, don't try it. Appraisals are often not worth the paper they are written on.

Don't let the Ebay lowballers get you down, they are just testing the water to see if they can make a buck off flipping your car. It happens to everyone who lists an old car on ebay.

Selling a car is like the the big game coming up on Sunday.........Anything can happen and the Giants can win. I have flipped many, many, many, many cars over the years and you just have to sit and wait for that "right" person to come along and you get your "Giants Win the Super Bowl!!"

Other times you can not even keep it in driveway to clean it up and people are making offers for twice what you paid!! It's all about timing and the right person finding the car your selling.

Also a good point was given about selling a Camaro on TC. There are lots of them sold here but be prepared to get beat up a little and asked many questions. We all have Camaros in common and want to buy cheap and have them worth millions....LOL!!

I would take it off the market and drop about 500 in it by:

1. Mobile paint touch up co. We have a company called autocolor where i live. They come out and will fix all dents/scratchs, etc... for a real steal considering how much more a solid paint job without chips/dings will will increase its value. These guys are usually so good you can not tell they even touched the car. Several new car dealerships around here use them.

2. Get the car up in the air, pressure wash the underside of the car, scrub it stc.... get it clean and then coat it. tape up driveshaft, frame, rearend, tank, etc... shoot it with a bedliner, epoxy, etc.... then paint the rails, rearend, etc... all the parts that people look at unsderside wise. Use accenting colors, ie; gas lines place cardboard behind and shoot em silver. Shoot shocks red, rear end gloos balck vs semi black on rails, coil springs, white/red/etc... drive shaft grey,etc... you get the drift. Clean it up and make things contrast, to show difference and detail.


That may sound like alot more than you want to do, and is for sure not stock. But a clean underside tells alot about the car.
And its mainly just labor not alot of $$$ so you benefit from the work if you decide to keep it or sell it.

Just my $.02 here. You paid $18.5 and now have $27 in a nice looking PJ 68 which needs some paint help. Unfortunately I would say that your in to deep. The way I see it you have 2 choices, 1) make it your PT car or 2) hold it and hope the market comes up. I'm kind of like the rest of the guys I'd say $20K top end. If it were mine I would go PT with it, drive and enjoy it and don't worry about it.

One of the biggest successes to selling is the right time for the right type of person. Honestly between November and February is the worst time of the year to sell something. Most people are stressing about Holiday shopping, then shell shocked after seeing their credit card bills. Come March people have gotten their tax refunds, and they are getting spring fever. That is the time to sell a car is in the cruising months not the shovel the snow scrape the ice months. Then there is the worry of transporting the car.
You would not try selling a Jet Ski in January when everyone wants a Snow-mobile. Also Geographic location means a lot also. I have seen rusty shells sell for more back East then an rs body only minus the engine for sale in Colorado or Kansas.
Wait until the weather warms up, The snow boots and parkas have been replaced by booty shorts and sandals,Testosterone is peaking then list it.
:hurray:

To empathize a bit further; I have a plain jane 69' X44, Z clone that I bought last year. I searched for quite a few months and was very satisfied with what I paid for the car. It has a very clean undercarriage, SFCs, 12 bolt w/posi, freshly rebuilt motor, clean interior (new carpet, seat covers, dash pad in great shape), original floor/trunk pans (with minor issues and lots of life left) etc.. The paint is enamel that was done back around 95', and half a$$ at that. You could say that it's a "ten footer".

Well, I now have about 31K into this car. Of course, I put in a ton of upgrades and it truly runs and handles like a modern day sports car. The suspension and handling is now incredible. It has a new TKO 5spd, new wheels etc...

Well, I have one child in college...and another will start next fall. In short, I may find myself in the position of having to sell the car I love, and that I have put in well over 100hrs of hard work into. So, I might be faced with; a paint job is too expensive and definitely won't give me a return on that investment. But...can I sell it for at least the 31K I have into it as is? Well, I might be delusional, but I honestly think I can sell it for a min of 30K, and possibly as much as 35K. Whoever buys it would only have to possibly, paint it. Even then, it'd be fine for several more years without..depending on personal taste. The question will be...what else is on the market...and at what price and in what condition? I hope I don't have to find out :(

To empathize a bit further; I have a plain jane 69' X44, Z clone that I bought last year. I searched for quite a few months and was very satisfied with what I paid for the car. It has a very clean undercarriage, SFCs, 12 bolt w/posi, freshly rebuilt motor, clean interior (new carpet, seat covers, dash pad in great shape), original floor/trunk pans (with minor issues and lots of life left) etc.. The paint is enamel that was done back around 95', and half a$$ at that. You could say that it's a "ten footer".

Well, I now have about 31K into this car. Of course, I put in a ton of upgrades and it truly runs and handles like a modern day sports car. The suspension and handling is now incredible. It has a new TKO 5spd, new wheels etc...

Well, I have one child in college...and another will start next fall. In short, I may find myself in the position of having to sell the car I love, and that I have put in well over 100hrs of hard work into. So, I might be faced with; a paint job is too expensive and definitely won't give me a return on that investment. But...can I sell it for at least the 31K I have into it as is? Well, I might be delusional, but I honestly think I can sell it for a min of 30K, and possibly as much as 35K. Whoever buys it would only have to possibly, paint it. Even then, it'd be fine for several more years without..depending on personal taste. The question will be...what else is on the market...and at what price and in what condition? I hope I don't have to find out :(

What color is it Kevin? j/k

What color is it Kevin? j/k

:D :D :D

dbx1969, 30k for a protouring that a 10 footer is not unrealistic because your $$$ value comes from the mechanics of the car. It's not unheard of to see PT cars going 30k+ because as you said it "modern day sports car" feel. A guy here in town recently had to sell his 68 PT it was a complete car only in black primer not painted (flat back cars, people still beating that old horse), I think my friend said he got 35k for it.

It worked out great for the buyer he said, because that way he got a complete car at the lower PT price range and had enough skill himself to do the paint job.

Like many have said, every car has a potential buyer!

dbx1969, 30k for a protouring that a 10 footer is not unrealistic because your $$$ value comes from the mechanics of the car. It's not unheard of to see PT cars going 30k+ because as you said it "modern day sports car" feel. A guy here in town recently had to sell his 68 PT it was a complete car only in black primer not painted (flat back cars, people still beating that old horse), I think my friend said he got 35k for it.

Thanks for the reinforcement, Jeff. I bought this car right before my 1st went off to Georgia Tech. I knew I was taking a chance on how my business might do, but I needed this car (whole 'nother story :)). I'm doing OK, but I sweat at times...and things are only going to get more expensive...from a family perspective.

I've had local guys tell me it's worth 40K-45K. But we both know that's nice to hear...and reality will almost certainly be different. But yeah, I honestly believe I can at least get my money back out of it @ 30K, and hopefully better. If I asked "what's it worth" here, I'd likely hear "High 20's max" because it's an X44...and white :D

I wanted in on this topic from the start, but forgot :confused:


Bottom line asking anyone what your car is worth is like asking anyone if your wife if fat. Its all speculation. 120 lbs may be fat to a midget but may be too skinny to a a 300lb wrestler. Even though I hate to admit it EBAY is your best gauge. Spend $50 and 7 days of your life and you will find out. Shyt..... and the way Ebay has been working lately you may even find out 2-3 times before it really go's :D


Good luck and don't feel bad......Team Camaro members are cheap.......If I knew you were looking to sell I would have offered you $8500 :thumbsup:




bob

After sitting here and reading all the posts, it is too bad all the talk is about money and how much it is worth. Poor judgement on your part does not mean everyone trying to buy it low is wrong and an idiot. I am sure when you bought it you wanted to pay as little as possible. These "collector" cars are not really like a normal used car or most new cars that drop in value as soon as they leave the car lot. Their value is in the eye of the beholder (other than COPOs or rare performance models). You made a mistake so move on. I have not totaled the receipts I have gathered while restoring my car, but if they totaled more than the price I could get, it would not matter to me at all. I do not need my Camaro at all for anything but fun. The enjoyment is nothing I could sell for a price.

eBay is only one avenue to market a car. It is like a big swap meet where most people are there for a deal. I personally believe that the best prices are between private sellers. Try your local newspaper. How many first gen Camaros get advertised there? Not very many in my local paper.

Good luck.

Again, thanks to everybody who gave me helpful information and advice. I have no pressing financial need to sell the car, so that is no factor. Doesn't look like the car is going to hit the reserve price, so I paid 60 bucks to eBay for an education. No big deal. In fact, you could say I asked for it.
Spring is just around the corner so I'll hit the car shows and the local papers and see what happens. Or I may just bite the bullet and pro tour this car like I originally intended. At least I know what I have to work with in this case rather than some different unknown car.
I can't believe how huge this post got...and quick too! Talk about hitting a hot button. Anyways, back to my original point, I wanted to gripe about the people hitting me up trying to low ball the car and that's what ticked me off in the first place. Even though the numbers I got here were lower than I thought, they were at least higher than what the eBayers were offering so I feel like I was at least half right. Like I said before, I've owned enough hot rods to know that any car is only worth what somebody is willing to pay; it really doesn't matter how much you have spent on it.
For the gentleman who suggested that I made a mistake, I will have to disagree with you. This is still a nice car and a joy to drive. So the $ aren't matching the expectations- that doesn't take away from the fun factor of owning a little piece of Chevy history for me. I don't regret buying the car, the price I paid for it, or a single penny or minute I have spent. :yes:

Edit: I also got a big bonus out of all this: I learned that I may have the rare RS delete/SS delete/Z28 delete option!

This is still a nice car and a joy to drive. So the $ aren't matching the expectations- that doesn't take away from the fun factor of owning a little piece of Chevy history for me. I don't regret buying the car, the price I paid for it, or a single penny or minute I have spent. :yes:
Edit: I also got a big bonus out of all this: I learned that I may have the rare RS delete/SS delete/Z28 delete option!The first paragraph says it all. This is all that matters - your personal enjoyment in driving the car - where ever/whenever.

Agreed, it is a nice car, even with the defects pointed out. I would think you would buy another body and turn it into your PT car, leave this one as is, JMO.

And you also have the WWD = Wing Window Delete.

Thanks everybody for your opinions. I have to honestly say that I am very disappointed. I apparently paid more for the car (18.5) than it will ever be worth. I have 27 in the car so far so I am upside down in it by at least 10 grand. My stomach hurts. .......

......For the gentleman who suggested that I made a mistake, I will have to disagree with you. This is still a nice car and a joy to drive. So the $ aren't matching the expectations- that doesn't take away from the fun factor of owning a little piece of Chevy history for me. I don't regret buying the car, the price I paid for it, or a single penny or minute I have spent. :yes:.....

Sorry. It sounded like a mistake from your previous post. These cars are not really about worth. You need to go a level or two up to be about worth. They are about enjoyment of a hobby. About making friends in the hobby. Sounds like you are on the right track now. Think of all the people that talk to you when you park the car. Most of them that don't one have may have a little envy.:thumbsup: