The car is a fully restored (frame off) car. I Don't think it was an original SS and don't know if it was originally a big block.

Currently has SS trim. A fresh 454, but badged on the car & air cleaner as a 396. Power Brakes, Black interior, Fresh paint with the thick hood & trunk stripes, and Vintage Air A/C. 4 Speed Tranny, 12 bolt Muncie rear end.

The car looks really clean and looks pretty much like a stock 396 big block would have looked.

What's your guess on it's value? Can't really find anything similar with completed eBay transactions that match this car. Where else do you look to determine values for a 69 Camaro?

26k-29k

As far as I know there isn't a place you can go to get the value. You have to have alot of knowledge of the car and of the current market and go from there. You could find a comparible and see what it goes for. From your description of the cowl hood I'd say you don't have alot of experience with a 1st gen Camaro. Might be a good idea if you have someone with experience look at it for/with you. Pictures go along way in determining value but doesn't compare to actually going over the car with a fine tooth comb and doing your home work on how it was originally built.

Here's a link to a description of the car with a bunch of pictures.
http://www.flemingsultimategarage.com/galleria_detailed.php?id=250&nhs=0&make=&cat=Camaro&mt3

I don't know much about Camaros. I've spent the last few years working on and learning about Fords. How would I find an appraiser or expert in a particular area to look over the car and give me a detailed report on it should I decide to look at it further?

$44K is a little high. I would say $33-$36K

$44K is a little high. I would say $33-$36K



44K is WAY high as is 33-36K.

I have sold a bunch of cars as you described, and with todays market the way it is I see between 22-25k depending on color combo/desirability . Sure it may seem to do more on Ebay but thats not real money and usually takes 2-4 times before someone actually HAS THE MONEY and takes it. Just check the completed listing section of Ebay.................... Its a joke.



JMO.....




bob

44K is WAY high as is 33-36K.

I have sold a bunch of cars as you described, and with todays market the way it is I see between 22-25k depending on color combo/desirability . Sure it may seem to do more on Ebay but thats not real money and usually takes 2-4 times before someone actually HAS THE MONEY and takes it. Just check the completed listing section of Ebay.................... Its a joke.



JMO.....




bob

22-25k for a frame off restored big block 69 Camaro. Even if its not a true SS. That is way low. If you have a car like that and want to sell it to me for 23k. Consider it sold. Easily worth 30k+. The time and money it takes to do a frame off restored car..... Im not being a jerk but i cant see how you could look at those pics and say a car like that is worth low 20s.

Dan,
I have talked to this guys several times on the phone when I was looking for a '69.
Seems like he does a ton of clones. Heck one time he was selling a '69 Z-28 RS with the Super Sport package. I mean I was laughing as he tried to explain the car. He makes claims that he was a head tech at a Chevrolet dealer in '69 yet he calls Z-28 stripes SS stripes. For that kind of money you can buy a nice documented mint condition RS/SS small block car with all of the options. The real thing is always going to hold it's value. Clones will always be clones. On another twist i was at a swap meet
on Sunday and a guy was selling a plain jane '69 327 auto that needed total redo. It was full of bondo and it was $19,500. Also a guy had a bar stool with a chevy 350 under it mounted onto some kind of crazy lawnmower frame and called it a Bubba Hoss.
He wanted $12,500 with a straight face. It's all what you want and are willing to pay. I would get a appraised value on the car and everything checked. And make sure everything works for that kind of money.
-Doug

If the resto work is good quality and if the car is actually in good condition I'd say $30k even for a clone. Did it ever say it had PS or A/C?

I bought this one for 26k 454 clone Th 400 12Bolt posi 355 gear It 2 was a frame off restoration http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y62/MDS59/69ss/2006SUMMERCAMAROPIC.jpg

Thanks for the feedback. I still haven't gotten the trim tag codes, so I don't know what options were originally in the car. I doubt it was an original A/C car...they would install the Vintage Air system if I were to buy it.

Also, it doesn't have power steering currently, so I doubt it had it back when it was new.

The deal would include a trade for my Cobra replica and some cash, but I don't want to give my car away only to find that the Camaro isn't worth close to what I should get in an outright sale of my car.

How would I find a local appraiser who really knows what to look for in a restored Camaro?

I bought this one for 26k 454 clone Th 400 12Bolt posi 355 gear It 2 was a frame off restoration http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y62/MDS59/69ss/2006SUMMERCAMAROPIC.jpg

When did you buy that car for 26k? Looks to me like you got a good deal.. Beautiful car!! From everything ive seen and worked on a frame off restored car is minimum a $30,000 project. Unless i suppose you can do every piece of work yourself and buy the car right to begin with.

dan, those cobra replica cars are worth some good money too. unless it is really rough or incomplete it should probably be a stright up trade. copy for copy. do you have any pics of your cobra?

oh yeah, welcome to the board. i was up your way last week. (my mom lives in tamarac)

Here's a link to pics and details of my car.
http://bellsouthpwp.net/f/u/funbnme/Cobra4Sale.htm

It's in fantastic shape and the engine only has about 800 or so miles on the rebuild. It's wicked fast too. I put an ad here in the Trades section of the classifieds. If you know anyone interested in a trade or straight purchase, feel free to pass the link along to them.

I took some better pictures over the weekend, so I'm going to update my ad tonight. Better light so you can see the condition & color better.

To me pricless!! What I wouldn't give to one like that!!

Don't confuse "cost to build" with "value!"

There's no guarantee that a car is worth at least what you have in it. More times than not, the opposite is true.

When did you buy that car for 26k? Looks to me like you got a good deal.. Beautiful car!! From everything ive seen and worked on a frame off restored car is minimum a $30,000 project. Unless i suppose you can do every piece of work yourself and buy the car right to begin with.

I bought it september of 06.I did nothing to this car it was bought completed.I must say it was one very nice job the underbody still looks new. came with an all new interior as well

That is NOT a $44K Camaro..IMHO..as mentioned earlier, I'd take a numbers matching RS/SS small block that needs some work over that....be careful out there....

Don't confuse "cost to build" with "value!"

There's no guarantee that a car is worth at least what you have in it. More times than not, the opposite is true.

No doubt.. i completely understand that. Case in point i have waaaay more into my car than its worth or what i could sell it for. But..that car to me still looks like its worth 30k. 44k??..no way.

I think it really all boils down to what someone is willing to pay for any given car. In november (last) I was offered 35k for mine from a very willing /able buyer.I believe if someone really wants a particular car there is not much anyone can do to talk them out of it.

44K is WAY high as is 33-36K.

I have sold a bunch of cars as you described, and with todays market the way it is I see between 22-25k depending on color combo/desirability . Sure it may seem to do more on Ebay but thats not real money and usually takes 2-4 times before someone actually HAS THE MONEY and takes it. Just check the completed listing section of Ebay.................... Its a joke.



JMO.....




bob





After looking on Ebay again I change my opinion.............

18-22K today can buy you a real nice CLONE.




22-25k for a frame off restored big block 69 Camaro. Even if its not a true SS. That is way low. If you have a car like that and want to sell it to me for 23k. Consider it sold. Easily worth 30k+. The time and money it takes to do a frame off restored car..... Im not being a jerk but i cant see how you could look at those pics and say a car like that is worth low 20s.




Obviously you haven't tried to sell a Camaro lately. Finding someone willing to cut loose with 25k is no easy task these days....ESPECIALLY for a clone. Sure theres a sucker born every minute, but the reality is it aint easy selling a clone SS hardtop for big money. TRUST ME I KNOW. I've bought and sold 15 Camaros in the last 8 Yrs.






If the resto work is good quality and if the car is actually in good condition I'd say $30k even for a clone. Did it ever say it had PS or A/C?



Its real easy to say its worth 30K but its a lot harder to actually GET 30k.








I bought this one for 26k 454 clone Th 400 12Bolt posi 355 gear It 2 was a frame off restoration http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y62/MDS59/69ss/2006SUMMERCAMAROPIC.jpg





SEE.............. Real nice car......... :thumbsup: for "only" 26k. If the seller only got 26k in 2006 do you really think he could more with todays looming recession ??????



When did you buy that car for 26k? Looks to me like you got a good deal.. Beautiful car!! From everything ive seen and worked on a frame off restored car is minimum a $30,000 project. Unless i suppose you can do every piece of work yourself and buy the car right to begin with.





YES.....He got a great deal. Great deals are out there every day ;) If you want a 70 Hemi Cuda you have to pay the price, but take a look at how many 69 Camaros are currently for sale............. very EASY to find a good deal on a nice car.......... any day.


And a frame off on a 69 Camaro takes about 2 hrs extra and is actually easier than leaving the subframe in. Its just a catch phrase that sounds really expensive.




Don't confuse "cost to build" with "value!"

There's no guarantee that a car is worth at least what you have in it. More times than not, the opposite is true.





Unreal knows................ :beers:

I bought it september of 06.I did nothing to this car it was bought completed.I must say it was one very nice job the underbody still looks new. came with an all new interior as well







VERY NICE car Michigan man. Money well spent.







bob

I disagree with the frame off only takes about 2 hours extra. If someone has done a frame off on a car you can know with some confidence that things were done right and every detail gone over.
How many people on ebay say the car has had on a frame on restoration and it often means a half ass paint job with a spray bombed underside and engine compartment...if that. Its usually a different mindset in the quality of the resto in my opinion. Not always, but more often than not.

It that car is what it appears, true frame off condition, then its worth 30k to me. So if someone, me, would be willing to give 30k for it..i guess its worth that.

And trust me...I too know that a car is most often not worth what you have into it. I have $37,000 into my 67..would you like to give me 37k for it?? :noway: