Hi I have noticed a few threads where peole are installing G bars. Rich_allen has one. I am interested in any photos of tailpipes that may have been run to get around things. Also interested in hearing some thoughts on ways to mitigate issues in this area. My first thought is to run a feul cell in the trunk.

Any pics or thoughts appreciated.

I purchased a narrowed minitub gas tank on the assumption it would make it easier to route the exhaust. I haven't done it yet but it looks like I could put the mufflers beside the tank in the space saved by the tank and removal of the springs. I was going to look at some small Magnaflow mufflers to see if they would fit.

I've got a few pics of GBar exhaust routing that I have saved at home that I will try to post tonight.

Don

Side exit system from Spin Tech.

Side exit system from Spin Tech.

Does this have clearance issues when you have subframe connectors? I considered this too but thought it would be too low. How loud is this?

Thanks,
Don

Side exit system from Spin Tech.


Gota have a full exaust.

Does this have clearance issues when you have subframe connectors? I considered this too but thought it would be too low. How loud is this?

Thanks,
Don

I am not running it but plan to. My plans are to order the mufflers with the NASCAR style oval exit tubes and cut them at an angle but parallel to the cars body and not run the chrome tips in the link. I plan to just paint the tube black or leave it's stock color as long as it's aluminized. This link shows sub-frame connectors and notching them. I do not have sub frame connectors. Got the link from a guy on the PT site. I have never seen it before. It was big help in making up my mind to run it and how.

I like the cleaner look and no over the axel tubes, no tubes sticking out of the wheel well and down like on 67-68's that blow dirt and dust everyplace and nothing sticking out the back and hanging down under the rear valance. Even on 69's I like the exit style of the stock 67-68's but they blow junk all over the place in dusty parking lots or in my case the accosional dirt road since I live in the boonies!!

http://www.carcraft.com/techarticles/exhaust_installation/index.html

Hoping to hear form some vendors here who "Sell lots" of G bars

Here are the photos I have. One is over, two are under and the other is Prodigy's Empty Nest showing the cutouts added to the trunk floor for 3" pipes. I'm going to try to run mine over.

Don

Here are the photos I have. One is over, two are under and the other is Prodigy's Empty Nest showing the cutouts added to the trunk floor for 3" pipes. I'm going to try to run mine over.

Don


Thanks Don the under is a no - no. I looked through an old post I made on pro-touring.com can found my other inquiry. The only thing I found there was Frnaks EN post where he made tunnels for the 3 inch pipe.
I am wondering if the Quadra link has the same problems?

If not It may tip the scales in the DSE direction.

:beers:

Thanks Don the under is a no - no. I looked through an old post I made on pro-touring.com can found my other inquiry. The only thing I found there was Frnaks EN post where he made tunnels for the 3 inch pipe.
I am wondering if the Quadra link has the same problems?

If not It may tip the scales in the DSE direction.

:beers:

I think the over will work fine. It will just take some time to fab it from mandrel bent J bends etc. I hope to get to this within the next couple of months. The quadralink is a well engineered piece but it costs more and the install is more complex with the cutting of the floors etc. You're still looking at a custom exhaust with either setup.

Don

There is no problem with getting 3" exhaust past the G Bar. Notching the tank corners will make it MUCH easier, but even without notches it is not a problem. As you can see on the Air Ride equipped car Jake got pipes past the Air bags, which need a little more heat clearance then coil overs. The ONLY reason we went into the trunk on EmptyNest was because of the rear tail panel exit on the exhaust and the way the tail pipes have to run INSIDE the frame rail. Since we raised the rear floor and fabricated it all anyway, it was easy to make the exhaust plenums.

Also Don, I have you covered on your Magnaflow stuff.

Frank do you have an Pics og G bar tail pipes? I was wondering your thoughts on a fuel cell I was considering one like BAD Penny and wondered if that might eliminate those wicked 90 degree bends in the tail pipes.

I do not have any pics, I am bad about letting stuff go without. Believe me though, it is no big deal, just notch the tank. if your doing a cell, it will be real cake, but I am not a big fuel cell kind of guy with all the tank alternitives we have.

He is a G bar set up without exhaust, you can see there is pretty good clearance

http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u212/ProdigyCustoms/DSC_0275.jpg

http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u212/ProdigyCustoms/DSC_0273.jpg

Thanks for the photo frank. Do you think their is room for the suspension to articulate and run 2.5 inch pipes over? Its tough to tell from the photo is looks like smooth sailing however when the springs compress and the body comes down ect will the exhaust get crushed?

3" works fine.

Hey Don do you have any contact info for the owner of Pic one? The pic where the pipes go over and make 90's in front of the tank?

Hey Don do you have any contact info for the owner of Pic one? The pic where the pipes go over and make 90's in front of the tank?

It's in this thread you started over on pro-touring.com. You must not have opened the link:

http://picasaweb.google.com/JakeParrott/VinnyAllegrettaS68AirRideCamaro/photo#5105976197275244466


http://www.pro-touring.com/forum/showthread.php?t=36587&highlight=Bar+exhaust

Jake's Rod Shop did the work.

Don

I know Jake, talk to him everyday

Thanks Don I know that car He is a long islander and I frequent shows there so I will get to check it out in person and speak to the owner soon.
Thanks again for everyones thoughts.

Stainless Works is supposed to make a set of G-Bar tail pipes. Frank, can you get those? How much would they cost? I might be interested in a set if it would avoid having to piece together all those bends.

Thanks,
Don

Well, seeing as I am a Chris Alston distributor and sell a lot of G Bars, and also am a Stainless Works distributor, I would be embarrassed to find this out, LOL!

I have to check on some custom headers this morning, so i will ask about the tailpipes. BTW Don, you should have some header Friday.

Thanks again

Well, seeing as I am a Chris Alston distributor and sell a lot of G Bars, and also am a Stainless Works distributor, I would be embarrassed to find this out, LOL!

I have to check on some custom headers this morning, so i will ask about the tailpipes. BTW Don, you should have some header Friday.

Thanks again

Here you go Frank. Posted by Darren from Air Ride over on pro-touring.com:

"Talk to Stainless Works for 67-69 Camaro tailpipes that will work with the AirBar; they are making one specific for it."

Don

The new g-bar setup looks good....but can you snake 3" exhaust through it? Looks a little more space invasive than the original g-bar....and that sounds like it was a little tricky already to get exhaust through. I bring this up because I am /was going to use the original g bar but now?

Well, I have no idea how exhaust routing may be on the new G bar. Also, know a few things. Number one, the jury is still out on weather any improvements need to be made. Second, the new system will cost more money, possibly a lot more money depending on options. We do not have pricing yet, but if it is anything like the Mustang stuff (which is already available), it is most likely going to be more money. Three, do you need a better suspension the present G bar? Will you push your car hard enough to find that extra 5%? That is where it gets tricky. Almost none of us will push our street cars hard enough to use any quality suspension we select at it's maximum. There is very few that will actually take advantage of any additional potential a "better" suspension may have. But then again, that never stopped a car guy form buying bigger brakes then he needs, more horsepower then he needs, more stereo power then he needs. most of us use the Tim Allen theory of bigger is better. I stand guilty as charged!

Any idea on when the new G-Bar systems will be available?

will the old g-bar still be available? Or once there gone, there gone?

It depends. If the new G Bar is much more expensive then the old one, I plan to still offer the old G Bar packaged by us probably using different shocks / springs. If CA makes changes / improvments and the cost does not go way up, we will just handle their new G bar products.

Frank, how will the car ride--- coil over verse air ride. Would it be better to use the air bar instead.

Well, the G Bar rides nice, better then any leafs I have ever used. But the adjustabilty of air Ride is impossible to compete with. You can make small adjustments in air pressure, change spring rates and barely change ride height a teenie.

what do the G bars with coilovers run?

Cost? Cost is $1700 for the G Bar with Coil Springs, The Air Bar with Air Springs runs $2000. We will ship them free.

Is that the Alston G bar you have in the pic with the guy on his back under the car? The silver looking varishock coilovers.

This may sound dumb but do they make any in polished or chrome for a show look

NO, but we could get you the kit minus the shocks and you could use polished or Chrome shocks and springs from someone else.

my g bar set upw/coil overs has 3" exhaust over the fab 9 housing ,plenty of room and exits straight back.

my g bar set upw/coil overs has 3" exhaust over the fab 9 housing ,plenty of room and exits straight back.
Have any pics that sounds like the exact thinkg I am headed for. Although I may go with smaler tial pipes.

Does the exhaust make a racket when the suspension articulates?

AJSZ you must have a fuel cell for your exhaust to exit "straight back." Winding around a gas tank will be a little trickier..esp with 3" exhaust.

Hey Frank, does running the g-bar prevent you from using a transverse muffler? I can't get a good enough sense of the space there.

No transverse muffler, no way to make the bends over the rear because the shocks at canted.