View Full Version : Stud Girdles, what do you think of these?
Tacoma Tom Mar 10th, 08, 10:32 PM Bought some new tall valve covers and was thinking of getting some stud girdles. Dont really know what for but some folks have said i should gettem. what do you think of these?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=270217933755&ssPageName=ADME:X:RTQ:MOTORS:1123
BlackoutSteve Mar 11th, 08, 01:24 AM Too cheap. Gotta be made in China!
I NEVER buy Chinese parts or tools.
I learnt my lesson.
Here's a better set at a realistic price. :thumbsup:
http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail.asp?part=CCA%2D4009&autoview=sku
Dutch69Camar Mar 11th, 08, 02:50 AM Too bad you can't check it out. It's true that most chinese stuff isn't high quality but it's not said that when it's more expensive it's also better. A stud girdle is no crankshaft so it might do the job just fine.
Steve are you really sure the COMP Cams part isn't chinese??
BlackoutSteve Mar 11th, 08, 02:59 AM No I'm not sure (I haven't checked), but the name brands tend to have a much higher quality control even if from the same foriegn factory than the no-name cheapies on eBay.
I suggest shopping around and asking the manufacturers that question if it matters to the buyer. (..and I think it should matter.) :)
It's just my opinion (which is being asked) but personally I would steer clear of stuff that's "too cheap".
Busted Knuckles Mar 11th, 08, 04:46 AM What's your cam specs? There's no reason to run a girdle until you get high enough spring pressure to deflect the studs. They're a pain in the butt to work around and if you don't need 'em, spend your $$$ on other go-fast goodies that will make a difference.
onovakind67 Mar 11th, 08, 05:39 AM If you're a real stud, you don't need a girdle...
Old baldguy Mar 11th, 08, 06:10 AM What's your cam specs? There's no reason to run a girdle until you get high enough spring pressure to deflect the studs. They're a pain in the butt to work around and if you don't need 'em, spend your $$$ on other go-fast goodies that will make a difference.
TT if I remember correctly your cam is around 570 lift ,MO I don't think you need a girdle ,can't hurt!! but not nessessary...use your $$ elsewhere ,the E bay ones I would stay away from ,sometimes you just can't get away from offshore products, but when it comes to internals I want to know who and where made ...Happy motoring,working the next couple weekends though PM me we go racing,I am only 25 min from the track
1962vette Mar 11th, 08, 01:29 PM We're talking about a stud girdle, not rods, pistons, crankshaft, push rods, roller rockers or other parts that see a lot of stress. I would try this in a heartbeat if I needed one. Have purchased other items from Skip White and am completely satisified.
dawg Mar 11th, 08, 01:41 PM buy a name brand part
I seen those el cheapo girdles come apart (cracks and slight twist to them).
they didnt do the job they were supposed to do.
Tacoma Tom Mar 11th, 08, 02:34 PM I have also bought from skip white. Maybe i will try them. Hell if i dont really need them what harm can it do? I dont know i guess i will think about it. Maybe someone on here has used them?
DOUG G Mar 11th, 08, 03:03 PM Cheap insurance IMO and for that price worth a try. The one one mine looks a lot like that and since I only have 3/8" screw-in studs and a +.600 lift solid roller.... it was justified.
idoxlr8 Mar 11th, 08, 03:06 PM I went with these from Doug Herbert, They have helped as I have noticed less noise from the valve train and I haven't broken any Poly-Locks or Rocker studs since adding them. They are made in the USA and cost just under $130.00, made of one piece billet aluminum.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v108/idoxlr8/119.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v108/idoxlr8/120.jpg
cstraub Mar 12th, 08, 09:10 AM Those are Chinese girdles and nuts. My stud girdle business in way down due to the Chinese stuff, can't compete but this is what you will run into. The threads in the aluminum will come out after 3 to 4 adjustments, this makes the bars worthless. Now my poly lock business in good because the taps they use are converted metic that is VERY close to US thread sizes. The Chinese polylocks will strip pull the threads after 2 adjustments.
68rs406 Mar 12th, 08, 09:38 AM I don't care what the part goes on, the chinese stuff has poor tolerances and cheap parts (as cstraub points out), and not just on car stuff but even in the construction tools and hardware I use at work, the stuff is night and day different compared side by side.
Heres an example, I use mechanical drafting pencils for drawing details etc. at work, and there is a "kit" at office depot that has lead, eraser, sharpener etc. for 9$ or so that I always bought, they seemed to break and quit working after a short time but I like using them so I kept buying. Well, I bought a single pencil from a blueprint shop, identical model and brand, but found it to be 100% nicer and it has lasted three times as long and worked smoother. I couldn't figure out why, until last time I went to buy another one, at office depot they have the kit for 9$, and the pencil alone for 6-7$, with lead being another 5-6$ ?! .I thought wth it's the same pencil, well it's not. exact same appearance until side by side, the good long lasting more pricey one was made in Germany, the cheap pos I had been using was made in, you guessed it, China. Even the lead was different and better, but in a near identical container.
So, moral is, spend more once, or spend less three times, whats the better deal? Until people realize that they will keep buying junk I suppose.
So, stepping down from my soapbox now........:D , Look on racingjunk and find a good quality used one, they really don't wear out, or just buy a good American made one and be done with it, IMO.
Old baldguy Mar 12th, 08, 09:44 AM Failure of a 30.00 known cheap part to take the chance of ruining a several thousand dollar motor ,ok who would take that chance ,anyone out there??? some folks have no integry and could care less where there product comes from ,don't get me wrong sometimes we /you don't have a choice but having a choice I will spend double or triple for quality ....quality issues are hurting some big companys now ,because of the bottom line profit into there pocket and not the workers here in the states...JMO...Happy Motoring
camaroman7d Mar 12th, 08, 03:36 PM You can't even buy a chunk of decent aluminum large enough to make those for the price he's selling them for. That wouldn't even include machining or poly locks. That alone should tell you that the material has to be questionable. Have you seen the price of aluminum lately? Now add poly locks, machining, anodizing, packaging, labor. I think I would pass on those. The material has to be poor quality and I would bet they are cast not billet or forged. Just take a look at what a set of ARP poly locks cost.
Save a few more pennies and get a decent girdle. I know the price seems to be too good to pass up but, trust me you will have a shelf full of poor quality parts if you shop price alone. Ask me how I know.
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