Hello All,

I just noticed this car from my morning search of eBay and it caught my eye.. Seems like a nice car.. I called and talked to Larry and he said the price of the car is $17,500.... Stated a very solid car but has no documentation to prove mileage

Is that a good/fair price for this car? Has low options and they added the vinyl top according to Larry to break the car up a little.. And car has had one repaint..

Let me know what you think..

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=140220932769&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=004

Car is 3 hours from me...

Thanks

James..

The car looks good, nice underneath, it's a nice pane jane with a V8. If it is a #'s matching, check the cowl tag, I would say that it is worth 14 -17. See if they will take less being that it base model (paint could use a good buffing), offer around 14K and work your way up. What do you plan on doing with the car? Daily driver, weekend cruiser and do you plan on modifying it? It has the 68-69 center caps on the rims, 67's are the short ones. The exhaust looks like it has be adjusted. Does the front look at little high to anyone? I am used to my SS hood, could just be me.

James, it's good to see that you're still going after a car! This car, even if it's not well documented, is an example of what I meant when I said you should be able to find something nice for under $20k.

As mentioned in the previous post, it certainly may not be perfect, but if you're looking for originality it seems like a nice starting point that you could improve on as time goes on...especially if you could get it for around $15k.

Good luck and keep us posted!!!

James, I also assume you saw this one for sale in the classifieds:

http://www.camaros.net/classifieds/showproduct.php?product=25467&cat=42

He's asking $19,300 but says the price is negotiable.

Again, good luck!

I guess I am starting to see what you guys are talking about when you say a nice quality first gen. This particular car shows up so much nicer in the pictures... I definitely agree that the silver car is a junker compared to this car in pictures to pictures comparison or cars of similar quality... I guess I would plan on changing the wheels to something different and just leave the rest alone for a while... I mean, I love the hot rods and big motors and such but I need something more tame for my wife and 2 girls.. I want something I can drive on long trips and has a very "solid" body and looks nice... and I do like the plane jane look so that is not a problem.. I would also switch the front to power disk brakes sometime in the future.. Plus I want something that gets at least 15mpg on gas hopefully... Just something simple that is very nice in looks and body wise.. It is tough to find a car my friends.. Lots of cars to look at...

Thanks..

James...

I called and talked to Larry again and he is going to take some more pictures for me.. I requested trunk pictures without the mat in it and some door pictures showing the bottoms of the doors and the general door area... Do you guys think this car is going to meet reserve? I would like to go and view the car before purchasing it or any car... Anbody local to Mayberry Classics right on Asheville Hwy right before Knoxville TN. I wouldn't want to put anyone out at stopping by and looking at the car for me but if someone is local/close then that would be nice... Anyone ever heard of Mayberry Classics? It would be Monday before I could come up with cash in hand and the auction ends Tuesday so do you guys think the car is going to meet the reserve price of I assume $17,500... I have looked at mostly cheap/dirty cars lately and I am a little gun shy as to driving over 3 hours to look at another car... The vinyl top being added seems strange on an original car like this but Larry stated that they wanted to break the car up a little bit with the vinyl top.. I asked about numbers matching and Larry stated that the numbers have been confirmed.. But I would want to verify for myself in person using his lift and everything. Maybe I should wait until next fall to look... Man, this is exciting/stressful all in one... This is a ton of money to me and I really want a good car to keep for the long term...

Thanks again for all the help...

James..

That's a really...ummm...unique color combo. Looks like a pretty nice car for upper teens.

From the pics if you picked up that car for 15k it would be a hell of a deal. It looks to me like its worth 17,500 all day long. Much better than the silver one. :thumbsup:
And the one referenced in the classifieds is sold.

What color would you call the interior? I asked Larry and he said it was not white... that is a factory option color correct?

thanks..

james..

What color would you call the interior? I asked Larry and he said it was not white... that is a factory option color correct?

thanks..

james..

It would have to be parchment. But im not sure it really looks like parchment from the pics. The trim tag will tell you what color the interior was originally. The VIN and trim tag info would be good info to have.

I'll get the vin and cowl tag information tomorrow hopefully.. And i think you are correct about the parchment color because a camaro friend of mine from work said the same thing.. I am going to review the new pictures when I receive them and probably make another call to Larry....

thanks..

James..

Nice car. Front end height is good, rockers are parallel with the ground.

Here is the vin and cowl tag information... Let me know what you think and what the codes mean... I talked to Larry again this morning and he did send me some more pictures.. I keep going back and forth on the car...

VIN: 124377N209677

COWL TAG:

04C
STD67-12637
NOR109286BDY
707-Z
C-G OR G-G PNT
W2 MGS


Any help decoding is appreciated... I know it is a v8 car produced in Norwood Ohio built the 3rd week of april?

yellow interior?
gold paint
tinted front windshield
powerglide transmission
console front compartment
interior decor group
custom interior group

Thanks..

James..

Ya...Yellow. I didn't want to say whether it was parchment or yellow, but it sure looked yellow to me in the pictures.

Jeez, ya i guess it does look yellow now that i know its yellow. It didnt really look parchment to me or yellow to me at first.

Well guys, now I need to make my decision about this car????? Should I go for it or not...

Thanks for all the help and advice and now I need to make up my mind..

Can you get yellow interior parts for these cars? I researched and it seems like yellow is a very uncommon color for the interior groups and not easy to come by...

Gold exterior with yellow interior.. Now that is a color combination.. I prefer blue/blue or green/green but originality is playing a very important part in my decision..

Thanks again

James..

Well guys, now I need to make my decision about this car????? Should I go for it or not...

Thanks for all the help and advice and now I need to make up my mind..

Can you get yellow interior parts for these cars? I researched and it seems like yellow is a very uncommon color for the interior groups and not easy to come by...

Gold exterior with yellow interior.. Now that is a color combination.

Personally, no I couldn't live with the Gold/Yellow but it's your opinion that matters here. Do you like the Gold/Yellow?

I don't think the gold looks bad but would prefer black/gold/or even white interior... I have never seen a yellow interior on one of these cars before.. Has to be a rare option...

James..

The interior looks Parchment to me. Maybe he misread the 797 as 707. It would be easy to do !! I LOVE it !! My car was originally Gold with Black custom and if/when it ever gets restored it will be Gold/Parchment. I wouldn't hesitate 1 second to go see this car in person. Then you will KNOW if you like it or not. He states the interior my be new and it would most likely be Parchment, as I have never seen the original Yellow offered as a replacement. I'm not a big Vinyl top fan either, but it's there and appears nicely installed. BY THE PICS, it's a beautiful car.....go, man, go see it !!!!!!:yes:

17.5k for a possibly numbers matching car in that solid shape even with a vinyl top issue?

Whatcha waiting for? Pull the trigger!

I don't think the gold looks bad but would prefer black/gold/or even white interior... I have never seen a yellow interior on one of these cars before.. Has to be a rare option...

James..

I have a 67 RS/SS that was originally sierra fawn with deluxe yellow....I doubt that it will ever see those colors again, LOL!

Here's the only link I can find of a factory Yellow interior.
http://www.chqreproductions.com/firstgen/Cars.html scroll down to the 67 Standard coupe...:hurray:
Note the carpet color on door panels and the inlay of Gold on the seats. The ebay cars are Black, which is consistent with the Parchment color.

That looks yellow to me, I have Parchment in mine. Parchment is very close to white. Look at your McDonalds soda cup, the white on it, thats Parchment.
Or, look at the floor paper foot anti dirt thingy they have in it, Parchment is close to that color white.
I like the yellow, is close enough. Probably a rare color combo like mine supposedly.
The sail panels are yellow, on Parchment they are black. Rear package shelf too. (black)
I still like it, I'd do it!

I would still have to see it in person to be sure. But as i said earlier and others have said... it looks like a real fair deal. That car is going to sell quickly priced in the upper teens. Heck its already at 14k with almost 4 days to go. If i were you and that car was only 3 hours away..id be headed there today or tomorrow at the latest. But it still comes down to your preference and if you really like it.

I talked to Larry again and the color is Yellow... He confirmed that.. They did die the carpet black instead of the original brown it was... Bottom of door panels look died black also...

I confirmed I could view the car tomorrow and put a deposit down until I could get all of the money Monday...

Larry said the car is show ready and could be driven anywhere..

I may go tomorrow and view the car but I wish I had more time to think..

I just need to make sure I can live with those colors...

Thanks again..

James..

James...when in doubt, do nothing. If you aren't comfortable with the car don't buy it, it's not the last camaro on the planet.

James...when in doubt, do nothing. If you aren't comfortable with the car don't buy it, it's not the last camaro on the planet.

I would have to say i agree with that. If your having doubts on the colors then you probably shouldnt do it. The last thing you want is to be taking it to shows this summer and seeing other Camaros and saying to yourself "I wish mine was that color..or i wish mine was that color. That is definitely going to lend itself to buyers remorse.
As im sure you know you can look and look for the "right car". But when it comes along you usually have to make a pretty quick decision. At least thats been my experience and its always a bit nervewracking. Good luck either way..i think the ball is in your court now. ;)

The last thing you want is to be taking it to shows this summer and seeing other Camaros and saying to yourself "I wish mine was that color..or i wish mine was that color. That is definitely going to lend itself to buyers remorse.

When I decided to buy a 67 coupe I knew that I wanted a factory red, factory deluxe interior, non SS/Z28 factory V8 car. It took me a while but eventually I found it and not more than five miles from my house, and an RS to boot!

James,

I'm not sure what you decided on this, but if you chose not to pursue this Camaro, don't worry about it. If nothing else, this car could be looked at proof that you can get a nice Camaro for under $20k.

do what you got to do !

p.s. I think I read the Name "Larry" more times than I read any other word in this Thread.

Hello all.....

I did not get a chance to make it up to view the car on Saturday... My wife already had a shopping trip planned and I had my 2 baby girls for the day.. And my yougest one does not travel well.... She gets car sick easy and it is hard to really look a car over with a 2 and 4 year old...

I am still going back and forth on this car.. I want to get the car but then I also want to make sure that this is the car for me... I have talked to all my friends that know me well and the decision is split with them also... Some say go for it and some say think some more...

thank you so much for all the advice.. I love the originality of the car but i like a hot rod also so it is tough to know what to do... If the car is as nice as "Larry"(that one was for you RobSS) :) says it is then I think I will have a great car to last me for a long time.. My plan would be to retain her as close to original as possible.. I do enjoy a good powerful motor but I guess it would be a fair trade off for this particular car.. and i do really like the look of a plane jane car...

thanks again and I am still thinking... But time is running out fast.. I may miss my opportunity on this one...
James..

You can always pull the 327 and save it. Then drop a ZZ4 in for fun....:hurray:

LOL James , you know Im just messin with ya. Well good luck with your decision. I remember saying to myself "I will never find another one at this price" , well I was wrong .. I found another one and way cheaper and in better shape. Things happen for a reason.

If looking for a hot rod then go for it, if looking for a stock car... go for it. The car has alot of potential, and 17.5k is a buyers price imo! Buff that paint out and it is on the money!

Hot rod style Options:
Black bumble bee or z/28 stripes
Replace interior parts or interior die them black! The yello/parchment has to go!
New wheels of your choice

Stock Ooptions:
Leave it and roll on down the road


Gold/black is a hotrodable color, there is a nice gold/black rs(clone) in town by me that was a sleeper, can you say column shift 6cyl?

http://www.dannywhitfield.com/images/ITEM_2-F-8_1967_CAMARO_SS_GOLD_-VINYL_TOP_.jpg

If looking for a hot rod then go for it, if looking for a stock car... go for it. The car has alot of potential, and 17.5k is a buyers price imo! Buff that paint out and it is on the money!

Hot rod style Options:
Black bumble bee or z/28 stripes
Replace interior parts or interior die them black! The yello/parchment has to go!
New wheels of your choice

Stock Ooptions:
Leave it and roll on down the road


Gold/black is a hotrodable color, there is a nice gold/black rs(clone) in town by me that was a sleeper, can you say column shift 6cyl?



Not to be rude but you would have to be totally insane to dye that extremely rare yellow interior !!! To the right person, it could be worth 20% of the purchase price. It hasn't been available for many years.
There's enough 1st gens with Black now....:yes:

no offense taken, i was giving options and well that is always an option isn't it?

The aboved rendering looks great but I prefer the correct 1967 rally caps.

Rick H.

http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb168/rhtoys/book02.jpg

This one is even closer to you, is less $$$ and looks more like a "hot rod".
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1968-Camaro-SS-clone-good-driver-NO-RESERVE_W0QQitemZ120242113239QQihZ002QQcategoryZ61 61QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

buy it

the colors will grow on you

finding a nice unmolested original is a hard thing

that red 68 is what most of them look like after some kid got a hold of it with the drag racing shifter, cheap aftermarket steering wheel, resale red (sloppy) paint and questionable body ... chrome junk under the hood, etc

It's is Gold. The car is definitely worth 17,500.
I don't know why you don't post the cowl and vin.
you would get more help.
But the car is a Plane Jane, Keep for 3 years and you will have no trouble making money. My opinion.

Thanks for all the help guys...

The cowl tag and vin# is posted in a previous post...

I kind of like the phrase that stated when in doubt, do nothing..

The money I spend will be all I have along with borrowing a little to make a purchase happen and I want to make the right decision.. I completely understand the point of being able to get my money back out of the car if the market holds and surrounding circumstances do nothing to force a major change in our times.... But I am not buying my car for that reason... I do want a good deal and have not ruled this car out but something is telling me to wait... If I lose this car then I have no one to blame but myself but I do hope that I can find another nice car down the road... I am at a 50/50 state and honestly am not sure why...

And I agree there are a lot of cheap/dirty cars out there thrown together to just make some money or pawn off on someone else... That is what I have looked at in person so far...

I know I could change the wheels, change the interior, add a black bumble bee stripe, change the motor, transmission, rearend, and make the car a true solid hotrod.. But that would take a long time after the purchase price and I'm not sure if I could do that to such an original car...

I have talked to friends, listened to the boards advice, talked to my wife, even included the car in my prayers, and even setup time to leave yesterday with my boss but still did not go.....

Thanks for all the help and the auction ends today so it may sale today...

Thanks again..

James..

Don't gret, you sound like me. I get all worked up when I want something, and it has to be perfect, etc... then when it comes to spending the $$$ I always back out. It never fails I can usually find a way to convince myself to pass on the purchase. I am a tight wad, I hate spending money. However that usually ends up costing me more $$ than I would of spent in the 1st place for some reason.

I think you hit the nail right on the head... Having a wife with 2 children make me more conservative also.. I am a tighty with money.. But then again, I don't have a lot of money either..

Thanks..

James..

This one is even closer to you, is less $$$ and looks more like a "hot rod".
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1968-Camaro-SS-clone-good-driver-NO-RESERVE_W0QQitemZ120242113239QQihZ002QQcategoryZ61 61QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem


Personaly I prefer a 68 over a 67 anyday of the week, :yes: but this 68 isn't half the car of the 67 in question. :noway:

JMHO,
:beers:

Personaly I prefer a 68 over a 67 anyday of the week, :yes: but this 68 isn't half the car of the 67 in question. :noway:

JMHO,
:beers:
I agree, but also understand sometimes just the matter of a couple grand and a buyers plans for a car have an impact on purchase decisions. I wanted a 69 camaro but could not find one I felt good about buying for the amount fo $$$ I had allocated to spend, but found a 68 in the condition/price range I felt comfortable with. So I thought on it and made a comprimise I could live with, and that would give me a 1st gen camaro.

Less than 3 hours to go and almost 2k short of the reserve. You may have more time to think about and negotiate a lower price, James. Only the seller knows how many lurkers are watching and waiting to bid in the last 5 seconds. The unfortunate truth of you posting the reserve is that others may be watching this thread and will try to get it at the minimum too. 17.5 does feel a little high for a plain jane, but in nice, original condition, it may not be. Good luck with your decision......:)

If I remember correctly I believe the reserve is higher than what the car is offered at in his dealership... But he may have changed the reserve price since I last talked to Larry.. I will be watching here in a couple of hours... I'm thinking over 16 but not 17.5.... I am very curious to see where the car is going to end up at for price... Larry did state 17.5 is "firm"... But then again the last minute bids may come in like crazy on this car..

I will be watching..

James..

I guess 17.5 wasnt that firm. $16,999 and reserve is off. Its good to see you can still find a decent deal on ebay. (A car priced to sell)

Yep, I was wondering if things would change on the car... I was quoted 20 grand on the reserve price... She is definitely sold now...

Should have never sold my 1969 Camaro in great shape with a newly rebuilt motor and brand new Classic Chevy 5 Speed kit and 12 bolt rearend with very nice paint and almost all original interior for $14,500... Bad thing is I did all of the mechanicals myself on the car and it was a dream to drive.. And that was just a couple of years ago... Man, what major regret I am having right now.. But, these situations are my own fault... Fellow Camaro lovers, never sell your dream car like I did, you will regret it the rest of your life....

I hope whom ever ends up the the little 67 coupe will really enjoy her...

And never believe someone when they tell you firm like I always believe...

James..

"And never believe someone when they tell you firm like I always believe..."

I learned long ago $$$ speaks pretty loud and nothing is firm.

Yep, I was wondering if things would change on the car... I was quoted 20 grand on the reserve price... She is definitely sold now...

Should have never sold my 1969 Camaro in great shape with a newly rebuilt motor and brand new Classic Chevy 5 Speed kit and 12 bolt rearend with very nice paint and almost all original interior for $14,500... Bad thing is I did all of the mechanicals myself on the car and it was a dream to drive.. And that was just a couple of years ago... Man, what major regret I am having right now.. But, these situations are my own fault... Fellow Camaro lovers, never sell your dream car like I did, you will regret it the rest of your life....

I hope whom ever ends up the the little 67 coupe will really enjoy her...

And never believe someone when they tell you firm like I always believe...

James..

Yeah i too easily fall for the firm statement as well. If you are patient or work at it i think often find there is more wiggle room.
Not to make you feel worse but that 69 you describe for $14,500...WOW...someone got a GREAT deal on that.
Dont give up..keep looking...

There was another car on ebay that i had been watching and thought it was a real good deal. (Not a Camaro) But a true SS 67 Chevelle that i thought was priced real fair compared to what 67 SS Chevelles normally go for. I wanted to pull the trigger so bad but couldnt do it either. The number one reason was i was not able to go look at it as it was in Kansas. But when it sold for what i thought was a good price i still kicked myself. Especially when it was over and i saw a dealer bought it..you know what that means. So hard to pull that trigger sometimes and so easy to regret after the fact when you dont.

Do not fret about it selling and you not pulling the trigger, many more deals to look at still available and will come up still.

Have you checked the classifieds on this site? Here are some possible deals imo:

http://www.camaros.net/classifieds/showproduct.php?product=25805&cat=42

http://www.camaros.net/classifieds/showproduct.php?product=25716&cat=44

Believe me, I will probably regret not going and at least looking at this car... And if the price would have been 17 grand then that would have helped my decision even more... I made the choice and will have to live with it... I'm pretty sure I will not see much in that price range at the Rod Run in about 2 weeks but will be looking...

This is my last car I sold.. only car I have ever wanted is the 1969 Camaro and I sold mine, not once, but twice... I think I need to do some soul searching to determine why I sold my baby to begin with..

http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p129/jlcsuper/IMAG0014.jpg

I guess the search continues..

James..

Screw the soul searching. All that will do is fuel the regret. The car is gone and you can't get it back. Been there, done that and it's just time wasted on mental masturbation.
As far as someone telling the price is "firm".......my 67 was on ebay and 3.5 hours from me. I was told the reserve was 9.5 firm, but I went and looked anyway. After I pointed out a few things the ad omitted I offered 7.5 cash. I brought it home for $7,800. My point is, if you are there in person and offer a solid cash deal, it's better for them than a possible deadbeat bidder on ebay.
I'm sure more good cars will be up for sale this summer with the economy in the dumps. Keep lookin'....:thumbsup:

My point is, if you are there in person and offer a solid cash deal, it's better for them than a possible deadbeat bidder on ebay.
:


Very true. last year when I sold my Blue 69 Camaro daily driver I put it on ebay with a reserve. Someone from out of town drove up to look at the car and made a cash offer on the spot. They drove my car home that day for 2000.00 less than my reserve.:yes:

My thoughts as a seller were, this is a real cash offer (he bought cash with him) & I dont have to worry about the endless # of deadbeats on ebay playing games. Sure maybe if I let the auction run it's course maybe I would have got more for the car or maybe I would have to relist it 5 more times and still never received payment for the car. :)