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I'm doing some detail work on my 1969 SS/RS 396 and I want to get the underhood light installed and I'm not positive on it's exact location. I know since it's a big block that it goes on the passenger side of the car for the dipstick, but I'm not positive on it's location from there. Does anyone have a big block car with a cowl induction hood that has the underhood light that could possible post some pictures to help me get it put in the right place. I was also going to ask about the mounting tab for it too. I've read a couple threads about the originals having only one mounting hole verse the two like the reproductions. Is this true and if so does anyone have a picture so I can see what it looks like. I'd really like to get mine to look as original as possible. Thanks for any help you can provide. Jesse

All cowl hoods (Super Scoop, or ZL2) have the light in the same location on the left side regardless of big or small block. Check your A.I.M. page 418 U26 A1. View C shows the RPO ZL2 location. My original light has 2 mounting bolts. Hope this helps.

Yep, and it was a bear to run the wire for the extra light around the air pathway. And whatyawhat original for?!
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Did cowl hoods and BB have hood lights? I'm wondering because even looking in the AIM it has 396 but nothing for the 427. Also, I can figure out where the light would go with the cowl, air filter and hood insulation. Seems that when the hood closes, something would not fit fit correctly.

396/427.. same engine.
Actual 427s are not in the AIM. as they were never intended for Camaros when it was written.
All 396 installation applies to 427.
You will find that the lamp is above the dipstick, which is why BBs are different to SBs.
BBs with A/C is also different to BBs without.

Thanks for all the information guys. I was wondering when you say that it's on the left is that the passengers side of the car? I just want to make sure that I'm getting it mounted in the correct place. I've got a 1969 SS/RS 396 without A/C. Fred is there any chance I could get you to email me or post a close up picture of the mounting location on your car. Since your car is optioned pretty close to the same as mine other than I have the molded hood insulation installed. I'd really appreciate it. I'd like it to look as original as possible in the engine bay area. Thanks guys and have a great weekend. Jesse

396/427.. same engine.
Actual 427s are not in the AIM. as they were never intended for Camaros when it was written.
All 396 installation applies to 427.
You will find that the lamp is above the dipstick, which is why BBs are different to SBs.
BBs with A/C is also different to BBs without.

While that is true for SS hoods, it does not apply to ZL-2 hoods. All lights on ZL-2, big or small block, are on the left (driver) side per A.I.M. All ZL-2 came from the factory with hood insulation also.

While that is true for SS hoods, it does not apply to ZL-2 hoods. All lights on ZL-2, big or small block, are on the left (driver) side per A.I.M. All ZL-2 came from the factory with hood insulation also.

So the BB with the Cowl Hood and the molded hood insulation came with a single hood light on the drivers side? That's what I thought, but I can't figure out where it would go. Any body with Pics?

Page 416 & 417 in the assembly manual show the correct locations for the hood lights. It clearly shows the 396 on the passenger side and the SB on the drivers side. It does not say anything regarding the ZL2 option.
Be carefull, you must drill the hood for the mounting bolts, make sure you use a drill stop to prevent damage to the outer hood panel.
Also my Z28 has a factory ZL2 hood and the light was installed from the factory in the wrong location, it use to cut the air cleaner seal. Check before drilling! JMO.

"BBs with A/C is also different to BBs without."

I didn't know that. How is the light location different?

Page 416 & 417 in the assembly manual show the correct locations for the hood lights. It clearly shows the 396 on the passenger side and the SB on the drivers side. It does not say anything regarding the ZL2 option.
Be carefull, you must drill the hood for the mounting bolts, make sure you use a drill stop to prevent damage to the outer hood panel.
Also my Z28 has a factory ZL2 hood and the light was installed from the factory in the wrong location, it use to cut the air cleaner seal. Check before drilling! JMO.

Page 418, or page U26 A1, shows the light locations. Up in the right hand corner is a small drawing that shows: 1 view C RPO ZL2. That is the drawing for all ZL2 locations. It is there, you just have to look carefully for it. I brought this up 2 years ago with CRG and it was confirmed as correct.

"BBs with A/C is also different to BBs without."

I didn't know that. How is the light location different?

U26-A2 View A. "396 engine with RPO C60".
It's 4" toward the vehicle centerline from the regular non-C60 location.
But as Oaklyss has said, this may not apply to ZL2 cowl hoods.

I guess it hit the evaporator box in the normal position. I'm not putting one in my L72 with A/C and cowl hood, but was curious. If all b/b with ZL2 had it on the driver side, that would defeat the concept of it being installed on the side with the dip stick.

The AIM clearly shows the BB location of the lamp to be on the RH side of the car.
There is no reason why ZL2 should make a difference.

Page 418, or page U26 A1, shows the light locations. Up in the right hand corner is a small drawing that shows: 1 view C RPO ZL2. That is the drawing for all ZL2 locations. It is there, you just have to look carefully for it. I brought this up 2 years ago with CRG and it was confirmed as correct.

Are you sure this is just the AIM showing where on the sheet metal of a ZL2 hood to mount the lamp? -which would then apply to the same location on the RH side in the case of BB?

If that's what the factory did, then that's what they did.. I'll still accept it as an oversight.

The AIM clearly shows the BB location of the lamp to be on the RH side of the car.
There is no reason why ZL2 should make a difference.



Are you sure this is just the AIM showing where on the sheet metal of a ZL2 hood to mount the lamp? -which would then apply to the same location on the RH side in the case of BB?

If that's what the factory did, then that's what they did.. I'll still accept it as an oversight.

That's sort of what I was wondering as well ... Is there two lights on the ZL2 hood with a BB motor ... or just the one light on the driver side?

All engines, only one.

Could be an oversight in the AIM, and the line workers knew to put it on the pass side for b/b. However the same dwg shows the other exceptions, so the draftsman/engineer was certainly aware of the differences between b/b and s/b locations.

Anyone have an original b/b with cowl hood and underhood lamp?

Steve Sandlin's RS COPO is pretty well optioned, and unrestored. Next time I see it, I'll check to see if it has underhood light, and, if it does, I'll report the location.

I was sort of curious about this same subject, so at last year's "All GM Meet" at Carlisle I looked at the underside of a lot of cowl hoods. I don't recall seeing a single first generation Camaro with a cowl hood, insulation and under-hood lamp. If there was one I missed it. I'll be looking again this year. Actually, I only remember seeing one or two with the underhood lamps period, regardless of the other two criteria.

I was sort of curious about this same subject, so at last year's "All GM Meet" at Carlisle I looked at the underside of a lot of cowl hoods. I don't recall seeing a single first generation Camaro with a cowl hood, insulation and under-hood lamp. If there was one I missed it. I'll be looking again this year. Actually, I only remember seeing one or two with the underhood lamps period, regardless of the other two criteria.
That's because they were so expensive! Mine cost $5.95. Of course that included the courtesy lights inside and the trunk light. Oh, and the glove box light. As most all readers here would know, the second light under the hood is owner installed, as is the toggle switch that shuts them off so the owner;) can leave the hood up.

This photo shows a factory installed light on a factory installed ZL-2 hood, big block. It is on the drivers side, next to one of the insulation clips.


http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r206/OAKLYSS/Hoodlite.jpg

Fred, A b/b with cowl hood and underhood light!!! That's what we're looking for. Was the original on the pass side or driver side?

Are you sure that's factory? It's nowhere near the location shown in the AIM.

This photo shows a factory installed light on a factory installed ZL-2 hood, big block. It is on the drivers side, next to one of the insulation clips.


http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r206/OAKLYSS/Hoodlite.jpg

Are you sure that's factory? It's nowhere near the location shown in the AIM.

I agree. It looks high and too centered in the picture above. The AIM (page 418 View C) has the light from the factory on a BB with the ZL2 option and hood insulation and Cowl Induction just to the driver side of the Cowl extension of the hood - just below the insulation. The light would shine between the wiper motor and the master Cylinder/power booster. I'm not sure really how effect of a light it would be located there, but that's where it is in the AIM.