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: 69 with Pro Charger


98blackburb
May 17th, 08, 03:56 PM
Anyone here running one of these ??
http://www.procharger.com/gallery/showtemp.php?market=3&idx=1207

camcojb
May 17th, 08, 04:16 PM
Anyone here running one of these ??
http://www.procharger.com/gallery/showtemp.php?market=3&idx=1207

I've done a small block and big block Procharger in 69 Camaros. Any particular question you have?

Jody

Eric68
May 17th, 08, 04:59 PM
We run one on a friend's 69. It's an F1R on a 377 (3.75 stroke). 647 HP at the rear wheels.

98blackburb
May 17th, 08, 05:14 PM
I am curious as to how reliable it is? I have been reading about the forged rotating assembly,let me know any insight you have,problems,etc.......I've read where an intercooler really helps things.thanks for any help as this all is new to me I'm from the old school of cam,carb,etc.setup.....thanks........alan

98blackburb
May 17th, 08, 05:15 PM
I've done a small block and big block Procharger in 69 Camaros. Any particular question you have?

Jody
(from your website)
My 69 Camaro was the basis for an LT1 Twin Turbo/4L80E project. The rendering below shows this work in progress and the finished result will be even higher quality. The goal is 750 RWHP, be very quiet, and get 24 mpg on the freeway.





How is this project going??

camcojb
May 17th, 08, 06:05 PM
(from your website)
My 69 Camaro was the basis for an LT1 Twin Turbo/4L80E project. The rendering below shows this work in progress and the finished result will be even higher quality. The goal is 750 RWHP, be very quiet, and get 24 mpg on the freeway.





How is this project going??

that was sold to do this................

http://www.camcojb.com/temp/malitude%20629.jpg

http://www.camcojb.com/temp/malitude%20666.jpg

Here's the two procharged 69's I did. The first was a 406 small block I built for a friends 69, that made 700 rwhp

http://camcojb.com/estel/newengine%20003.jpg

then the big block made 838 rwhp with a plug wire off........... :noway:

http://camcojb.com/alumin8r/zl1motor3.jpg

98blackburb
May 17th, 08, 06:09 PM
Seems like the most cost effective way to make HP. Do you agree?

camcojb
May 17th, 08, 06:11 PM
Seems like the most cost effective way to make HP. Do you agree?

bang for the buck, other than nitrous, yes......... great way to go. I love turbos but they're much more expensive and a lot more fabbing.

Jody

mean buzzen half dozen
May 17th, 08, 08:17 PM
[quote=camcojb;997453]that was sold to do this................

http://www.camcojb.com/temp/malitude%20629.jpg

http://www.camcojb.com/temp/malitude%20666.jpg
That is a very nice 64!
What kind of HP & torque,etc does it make?
Have you run it @ a track?
Details,engine,trans & so-on?
Thanks
MBHD

sc68z28
May 18th, 08, 03:07 PM
Here's mine, http://www.procharger.com/gallery/showtemp.php?market=3&idx=1233


F1 383.

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a224/sc68z28/1-01-07001.jpg

And at the track. Also a drag vid in my sig.

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a224/sc68z28/fontana314-2.jpg

---Bill.

98blackburb
May 18th, 08, 03:44 PM
Nice Car Bill, best part is it's Fast........I like it !!!

Eric68
May 18th, 08, 07:15 PM
If you take your time and do it right they can be very reliable. If you just throw a bunch of stuff in an engine and plan to put 20 psi to it without tuning it won't quite be so reliable. ;)

Not trying to be smart, just trying to point out that a blown 383 can be a great setup if you put some thought into it and get the tuneup correct. Plan every part from the oil pan up for reliability under boost and you'll be amazed at how rock solid a setup can be.

XLexusTech
May 18th, 08, 07:23 PM
For the two 383's here what blocks are you using?

Eric68
May 18th, 08, 09:00 PM
We're using a GM Goodwrench 4 bolt. The $700 one. Don't do that . . . LOL This long block was originally intended for a Weiand 177 and well . . . like most projects . . . it got a little carried away.

I would highly recommend the Dart block. Although I will say that the GM block has held up pretty well.

sc68z28
May 18th, 08, 10:15 PM
For the two 383's here what blocks are you using?


Mine is just a 70's, 010 block with steel splayed caps.
It's probably on the edge.
I will use a Dart block next time.

---Bill.

ProdigyCustoms
May 19th, 08, 07:39 AM
We sell quite a few of them and no reliability problems as long as we use the serpentine belts blower drives. There have been some vibration issues with Cog belts in regular street applications.

camcojb
May 19th, 08, 08:45 AM
that was sold to do this................

http://www.camcojb.com/temp/malitude%20629.jpg

http://www.camcojb.com/temp/malitude%20666.jpg
That is a very nice 64!
What kind of HP & torque,etc does it make?
Have you run it @ a track?
Details,engine,trans & so-on?
Thanks
MBHD

I just fired it a week or so ago, no power numbers. Should make 1000 hp or so. It's a 402 LS2 with a pair of T6776RE Precision turbos, Nelson Racing headers, PMC intake, and a paddle-shifted 4L80E.

XLexusTech
May 19th, 08, 09:56 AM
We sell quite a few of them and no reliability problems as long as we use the serpentine belts blower drives. There have been some vibration issues with Cog belts in regular street applications.


Hi Frank thanks for the heads up on the cogged drives. I was going to go that way beacuse I was told that thier can be issues with belt slip.
Is thier a happy meduim (BTW I plan on 12 lbs or so)

ProdigyCustoms
May 19th, 08, 11:47 AM
The bigger serpentine belt does not slip "as easy" as the smaller ones do. A lot of the belt slip comes when using a real small pulley on the blower. The smaller the pulley, the more likely for the belt to slip over that pulley.

If your going for 12LBS you may be better suited with a F1 as the F series uses a 5.4:1 gear ratio in the blower and P and D series blowers use a 4.1:1 gear ratio, which means the F series can spin the same speed as the P or D series with a larger pulley. And the larger pulley is less likely to have slippage issues. the F series is a bit more noisey. You eiher love that or hate that!

sc68z28
May 19th, 08, 01:04 PM
The bigger serpentine belt does not slip "as easy" The smaller the pulley, the more likely for the belt to slip over that pulley.
If your going for 12LBS you may be better suited with a F1 as the F series uses a 5.4:1 gear ratio

Well said Frank:thumbsup:
Anyone considering a Procharger should get it from someone like Prodigy Customs, it's all the lttle things that make them work right, and Frank understands this.:yes:

My F1 is an early model (5.0 step up) with a 12 rib belt I can make 15 psi boost with a 4.38" pulley. Belt slip can be an issue when I run a 4" or smaller pulley if the belt is getting old. Cogs are usually for race cars.

Also some slip on decell can help save the internal gears on the head unit.

If you run a cog on the street I'd suggest looking at this, see vid.
http://www.atiperformanceproducts.com/links/pr/super-pulley/index.htm
And a good thread on the subject here.
http://web.camaross.com/forums/showthread.php?t=532086

---Bill.