okiemark
May 27th, 08, 08:09 AM
I have gone back and read some old threads on complete front disc braking systems for a 68 Camaro. I've also priced 5 or 6 different places... it seems in the threads guys are talking prices of $800 to $1000 or more for what they would purchase but when I'm shopping on-line I see complete set-ups for around $500.00. I realize there are more "high performance" systems, maybe that's what most guys are talking about Any thoughts? I would like to have the colored calipers but it seems Wilwood is the only ones that carry those?? THANKS.
LCAC_Man
May 27th, 08, 09:07 AM
I have gone back and read some old threads on complete front disc braking systems for a 68 Camaro. I've also priced 5 or 6 different places... it seems in the threads guys are talking prices of $800 to $1000 or more for what they would purchase but when I'm shopping on-line I see complete set-ups for around $500.00. I realize there are more "high performance" systems, maybe that's what most guys are talking about Any thoughts? I would like to have the colored calipers but it seems Wilwood is the only ones that carry those?? THANKS.
Stock replacement systems go for about $500, usually $50-$75 to upgrade to powder coated calipers and another $50-$75 to get the zinc plated drilled/slotted rotors. You could also just buy some caliper paint and do it yourself.
okiemark
May 27th, 08, 09:34 AM
Len: thanks for the info. didn't know there was paint for calipars... that is the thing that is visible behind the wheel right?? (I know, I'm a big-time rookie). thanks again.
DHONDAGOD
May 27th, 08, 10:10 AM
Len: thanks for the info. didn't know there was paint for calipars... that is the thing that is visible behind the wheel right?? (I know, I'm a big-time rookie). thanks again.
Stock replacement type parts are what we went with in the front of the wifes car. You can go to your favorite auto parts store and purchase the 69 Camaro brakes cheaper than you can get online. You will still need to get used or repop caliper brakets/dust plates though. (Online is easier due to getting a packaged kitn that will have everything)
If you get too big on the rotors/calipers you may have wheel fitment issues.
Read the "stickey" at the top of this section for all the brake conversion info you need.
http://img383.imageshack.us/img383/6425/img2769smallvm2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
Yes you can paint your calipers before putting them on. Just make sure you hose off any brake fluid the gets on them right away after bleeding.
Chris:cool:
Eric Kammerer
May 27th, 08, 10:29 AM
For most folks, the OE style 11" single piston system used on the 69s is all you need in the way of braking. More pistons in the calipers, larger rotors, more (and more even) clamping force; some car need them, or use them for the cool factor.
If you do go with an OE style kit, decide up front whether you want to convert your drum brake car to discs, or whether you want install a 69 front disc setup. It sounds like the same thing, but it is not.
If you look real close at the frame behind the caliper on the pic Chris posted, you'll see that the rubber flex hose meets the hardline in a bracket on the side of the rail. This is a drum brake car converted to discs, and it uses a set of flex lines specific for that application, and allows you to reuse some of the drum brake hardlines.
I have posted pictures of how an OE style 69 system mounts, and I will try to dig up the links. The hardlines meet the flex lines in a bracket at the top of the frame rail, and the flex lines have a metal band in the middle that mounts to the upper control arm and keeps the hose out of the way of the spinning wheels.
Personally, I always figured that the General's engineers were pretty good, so they must have had a reason for doing certain things. That and the fact that I like all new brake lines means that I have done 69 front disc brake installs on both my 68 and 69.
With your location, I wouold be calling Matt's Classic Bowties. Good stuff and great service. I think they deal with Right Stuff Detailing ( www.rightstuffdetailing.com ), in addition to several others.
Eric Kammerer
May 27th, 08, 10:31 AM
http://www.camaros.net/forums/showthread.php?t=124406&highlight=brake+hardline
http://www.camaros.net/forums/showthread.php?t=115371&highlight=brake+hardline
http://www.camaros.net/forums/showthread.php?t=123519&highlight=brake+hardline
grn envy 69
May 27th, 08, 11:17 AM
Speaking of Right Stuff Detailing, I am looking for some feedback. I ran into them at a swap meet a few weeks ago and was impressed with their product and knowledge.
Also - Do the brackets for drum brake spindles work well or should I pop for stock ride height replacement disc brake spindles?
Thanks to all who post here. - Grn Envy 69
Z282NV
May 27th, 08, 11:29 AM
Speaking of Right Stuff Detailing, I am looking for some feedback. I ran into them at a swap meet a few weeks ago and was impressed with their product and knowledge.
Also - Do the brackets for drum brake spindles work well or should I pop for stock ride height replacement disc brake spindles?
Thanks to all who post here. - Grn Envy 69
I highly recommend their STUFF (no pun intended). I have purchased SS brake lines, SS automatic transmission lines, SS fuel lines from them over the past year or so and they all fit pretty well. Some tweaking was required on the transmission lines but that is because I am running headers. There shipping was reaonable and FAST.
DHONDAGOD
May 27th, 08, 11:29 AM
Dont use drop spindles. See stickey.
I used the stock drum spindles but you have to machine .610" off the upper bolt boss (where the upper drum brake shoe anchor above the wheel cylinder screws into).
It CAN be done with a grinder if your good but it would be better to have it milled. Or you could purchase disc spindles. Save your drum spindles and hub though as they are needed for some types of disc upgrades.
Chris:cool: